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Re: Skyrim : No Further DLC Planned, Team "Moving On"

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From: Xocyll
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:34
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Gerry Quinn <ger...@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>In article <6ti2n8psd9536tm4t...@4ax.com>, 
>Xoc...@kingston.net says...
>> David Lamb <dal...@cs.queensu.ca> looked up from reading the entrails of
>> the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>> 
>> >On 18/04/2013 12:30 PM, Trimble Bracegirdle wrote:
>> >> Report here:
>> >> http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/04/15/no-further-skyrim-dlc-planned-team-moving-on
>> >
>> >I guess that means Xoccyl's list of annoyances will never get fixed.
>> 
>> I never thought Bethesda would fix them.
>> Since Morrowind they seem to be getting lazier and lazier in this
>> regard, not just expecting the mod community to step up and fix bugs,
>> but relying on it.
>
>I'm not sure they would consider these true bugs, though.  They are 
>mostly system failures owing to AI/scripting limitations.  Changing some 
>things would likely unravel others.

When I said bugs I'm talking about all the actual bugs that got stomped
by the unofficial community patch _instead_ of by Bethesda.

>It's not a problem that comes up when you have to kill ten rats for an 
>otherwise non-interactive NPC.  Go beyond that, and things get 
>difficult, and the tech is not fully there to solve it in any game IMO.

A lot of the scripting problems in Skyrim are the result of them not
thinking things through in the first place and the use of scripts to do
things that should have been done in-game (like the skeleton key)
In previous games in the series the skeleton key actually worked as it
was described in the lore when in the player's hands.
In Skyrim it's nothing more then an unbreakable pick, and all it's
functions are handled by scripts when it's in an NPC's hands.

Now that might have been OK if this was something they dreamed up for
Skyrim, but it's not, it's been in every game in the series.
It has a defined lore and defined powers which it DOES NOT HAVE in
Skyrim.
This is supposed to be one of the 16 most powerful items on the friggen
planet, but it's junk in Skyrim.

They got lazy and wanted to use Key-required doors to keep the player
out of certain areas until they wanted them in.  They could have
obscured the doors so you couldn't reach them, magically blocked them,
etc, but they took the lazy route and just flagged them unopenable and
then destroyed the lore on an artifact to stop you using it to get in
those doors.

For that matter there are 2 barred doors that are nailed shut so they
can't ever be opened.  
_Wooden_ Doors that you can't open because they're barred/nailed shut
despite having fire spells at your command, big fucking axes, etc.

Zero logic there.

>PS: it seems Bethesda's new project is some kind of genetically 
>engineered zombie horror game, not the next ES or Fallout.

Could be interesting.
Guess it'll depend on the zombies and weapons and skills they give.

Xocyll
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Subject: Re: Skyrim : No Further DLC Planned, Team "Moving On"
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:34:05 -0500
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