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"Xocyll" <Xoc...@gmx.com> wrote in message 
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> Dan Lingman <dlingman@rogers.com.nospamplease> looked up from reading
> the entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the
> signs say:
>
>>Xocyll <Xoc...@gmx.com> wrote in 
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>>4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Kinda like old games like Rogue or Omega - saving was only when 
>>> quitting
>>> out of the game.
>>> You could pick up where you left off with no gap in continuity, but 
>>> if
>>> you died you couldn't reload an old save, because there was no old 
>>> save.
>>> Those old games had one save slot, and as soon as you died (or did
>>> something stupid you'd like to undo) saved that progress 
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>> It's not so much write-only memory, as it's a backup that's
>>> up-to-the-second and there's only one copy ever.
>>>
>>> Xocyll
>>>
>>
>>Worse, they tended to embed the file creation time inside the file, so 
>>if
>>you saved, then cloned the save file it didn't work.
>
> Some did, some didn't.
>
> If I recall correctly, Omega didn't, and I don't think Nethack did
> either.  At least not the PC versions.

Nethack still doesn't, neither does Angband, so you can technically 
save-scum if you copy the savefile.

Nethack, however, destroys the savefile the moment you log *in* to the 
character, so you're limited to the copy you made before logging in. 
Angband and its variants have a quick save function so you can save at 
regular intervals while playing (and some versions have autosave every X 
turns or every time you go up or down stairs), and doesn't save until 
after you've hit a key at the "you die. -more-" prompt.

Rogue was too short for much in the way of savefile scumming to be 
either possible or necessary.

-- Jonathan.