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pde...@draper.com (PDeMaio) writes:
>>Anyway, I think that  the public LIKES  to see good triumph over evil.

	Of course... but it HAS to be believable.  THAT is the problem - most
movies are NOT believable... take most action movies out today: HOW many times
has the evil character HAVE the chance to kill the good guy, only to wait for
some stupid (and sometimes NONE) reason and then get killed by the good guy?


>>Remember that  people watch movies  to escape the  real world.  In the
>>real world people see all of these  horrible things  happening -- it's
>>nice to go to the movies and see the good guy destroy all the bad guys
>>and win over the girl.  If it's well done, of course!   I think that a
>>movie that shows otherwise would flop badly  -- and you might blame it
>>on the public... certainly don't blame it on the film makers.  Believe
>>me, I'm not  defending all film makers.  There   IS a lot  of crap out
>>there.  However,    I just believe  that  you  don't give  them enough
>>credit.

	Erm... I _DID_ say 90% of all Hollywood movies.  Which means the
remaining 10% is worth watching.
	:-)


>I'm out of my area of expertise, but wasn't it sort of an unwritten rule that 
>films not portray evil defeating good in order to avoid inspiring the public 
>to follow suit.

	Not really... unless you are NOT a thinking human being and also DO NOT
go to see movies.
	As for the "inspire the public to imitate evil deeds" bit... I don't
really believe that.  One HASto watch the "bad" stuff to know just HOW evil we
can become - and also to keep ourselves in check far more often.  Hitler's
evil today could not happen easily - simply because of all the differing views,
debates, and the communication/transportation explosion making our world SO
much smaller.  The only way that this could happen would be in parts of the
world were you only get a single source of information... which unfortunately
still happens today.
	And if your CIA decides to go ahead with the security measures it wants
to implement on the Internet, well it will not be too long before the media
capital of the world follows suit.


>I remeber hearing some stuff about this when Natural born Killers came out.  
>There  is certainly a movie where evil defeats good and gets away with it. 
>I may well be wrong, so if you want to flame me and have a valid reason, by 
>all means do so.  Either way, I doubt there are many movies where a child 
>rapist wreaks havoc on a small town without retribution, that I would want to 
>see, never mind pay $7.00 for. 
>PDeMaio

	With Natural Born Killers, Mr. Stone said that his reason for making
the film the way it is was because he wanted to show us just how bad media can
get: "Take ANY small insignificant incident and boil it out of all proportions".
Eg: The Bobbit case, the OJ Simpson thing, the Waco thing... what is the big
deal with a woman cutting her husband's genital, or yet another murder, or
another cult?  When you consider, in your country, things like the KKK, Clinton
having legislative houses controlled by the opposite party, the mistreatment
of blacks/whatever-the-political-correct-term-here-is and American Indians, and
so on... those things were totally immaterial.  And as you said about the child
rapists... yet another case.  How often do you get such a blanket media coverage
of THAT?
	We live in a sad world, unfortunately - we always have.
	Now lets stop this because this in NOT a morallity/movie newsgroup.

						- Falcon

P.S.  These things do not just happen in the USA... but all over the planet.
	So don't think I have anything in particular against you guys.