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Here, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> I'm looking for games like Myst.

Recently played:

http://kairo.lockeddoorpuzzle.com/
http://wiki.xxiivv.com/Hiversaires (iPad/Android, mini-game)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-room/id552039496?mt=8 (iPad,
  mini-game)

I've heard good things about http://www.antichamber-game.com/ but I
haven't played it yet.

Currently in development:

http://the-witness.net/
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog
http://www.facethehorror.com/teaser/
http://neeblagames.com/thefivecores/
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1781324918/xing-the-land-beyond

That's all off the top of my head.

--Z

-- 
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
*

> "Brian"  wrote

> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
> they dying out?
> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?

Check out:
www.justadventure.com

I haven’t seen many like Myst though.

Have you played realMyst?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obyfx3gi2aE

"Vince" <vince@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Brian"  wrote
> 
>> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
>> they dying out?
>> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
> 
> Check out:
> www.justadventure.com
> 
> I haven’t seen many like Myst though.
> 
> Have you played realMyst?
> 
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obyfx3gi2aE

Thanks Vince and Andrew.

I didn't know that realMyst existed. Whats the difference?
 
-- 
Regards Brian

Here, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> "Vince" <vince@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > Have you played realMyst?
> > 
> > www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obyfx3gi2aE
> 
> Thanks Vince and Andrew.
> 
> I didn't know that realMyst existed. Whats the difference?

The video shows it well enough. It's a 3D environment in which you can
walk and look around freely. However, the world models are not as
detailed as in the original Myst.

The gameplay is the same, except for a small bonus area at the end.

--Z

-- 
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
*

>The gameplay is the same, except for a small bonus area at the end.

    The gameplay and sense of wonder, for me, was dramatically enhanced by 
the 3D engine.

rms 

Here, rms <rsquiresMOO@mooflashmoo.net> wrote:
> >The gameplay is the same, except for a small bonus area at the end.
> 
>     The gameplay and sense of wonder, for me, was dramatically enhanced by 
> the 3D engine.

I should have said, "the game mechanics". RealMyst has the same
significant objects and puzzles as the original Myst, and you solve
the puzzles in the same way.

--Z

-- 
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
*

On 18/06/2013 2:57 a.m., Brian wrote:
> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or
> are they dying out? If there are adventure games about then what are
> the names of these games?

They are still being made, of course, mostly by independent folks. Not a 
lot of first-person ones. You can go to GOG and type "fpp" (without 
quotes) into the filter bar -

http://www.gog.com/catalogue/adventure

(Now is as good a time as any to buy, too, seeing they have just now 
started their summer sales. RealMyst is $2.99)

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};> Matt v3.3 <:{

"Matt v3.3" <ethers.tragic@paradise.net.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/06/2013 2:57 a.m., Brian wrote:
>> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or
>> are they dying out? If there are adventure games about then what are
>> the names of these games?
> 
> They are still being made, of course, mostly by independent folks. Not a
> lot of first-person ones. You can go to GOG and type "fpp" (without
> quotes) into the filter bar -
> 
> http://www.gog.com/catalogue/adventure
> 
> (Now is as good a time as any to buy, too, seeing they have just now
> started their summer sales. RealMyst is $2.99)

I noticed that Windows 7 is not listed as the suitable operating system for
RealMyst. I also use a 64 bit operating system.
Has anyone used it n Windows 7 64 bit OS?

-- 
Regards Brian

On 19/06/2013 8:55 p.m., Brian wrote:
>> http://www.gog.com/catalogue/adventure
>> (Now is as good a time as any to buy, too, seeing they have just now
>> started their summer sales. RealMyst is $2.99)
>
> I noticed that Windows 7 is not listed as the suitable operating
> system for RealMyst. I also use a 64 bit operating system. Has anyone
> used it n Windows 7 64 bit OS?

I did not notice that. Having a look on the forums, some W7-64 people 
have got it working (but not others), apparently needing compatibility 
settings in the shortcut and/or installing Indeo Codecs. See here -

http://www.gog.com/forum/myst_series/real_myst_poor_performace/post26

GOG not listing W7 just means they could not get it working reliably 
enough on ALL their 30 or so test PCs to support it, but may still work. 
(Who knows for sure though, if you have the winning hardware combination)

-- 
};> Matt v3.3 <:{

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:03:54 +1200, "Matt v3.3"
<ethers.tragic@paradise.net.invalid> wrote:

>On 19/06/2013 8:55 p.m., Brian wrote:
>>> http://www.gog.com/catalogue/adventure
>>> (Now is as good a time as any to buy, too, seeing they have just now
>>> started their summer sales. RealMyst is $2.99)
>>
>> I noticed that Windows 7 is not listed as the suitable operating
>> system for RealMyst. I also use a 64 bit operating system. Has anyone
>> used it n Windows 7 64 bit OS?
>
>I did not notice that. Having a look on the forums, some W7-64 people 
>have got it working (but not others), apparently needing compatibility 
>settings in the shortcut and/or installing Indeo Codecs. See here -
>
>http://www.gog.com/forum/myst_series/real_myst_poor_performace/post26
>
>GOG not listing W7 just means they could not get it working reliably 
>enough on ALL their 30 or so test PCs to support it, but may still work. 
>(Who knows for sure though, if you have the winning hardware combination)

FWIW I have it running on Win7 Home 64bit with an NVidia GTX 460 (all
settings maxed) and at first it would turn into a slideshow just a
little ways in. Setting compatibility mode to XP SP3 fixed that for
me. Didn't have to worry about codecs.

-craig

"Brian" <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote in message 
news:1717250769393173583.815371bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com...
> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
> they dying out?
> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?

Brian,

I liked Myst Exile (Myst III)  the best in the Myst series. I played the 
original Myst and Riven and Myst Exile. I think I also got Myst IV (Myst 
Revelation) but never finished it. I thought it was boring. I didn't like 
the original Myst much though I played it and finished it. I found it and 
Riven too hard for me. I found Myst Exile hard too but found it more 
interesting and have played it a few times since. It looks like you are in 
New Zealand, so if you can't find it there, you might find it on Ebay or 
Amazon.com (US site) by a seller, if they ship to NZ.

www.gog.com is a good place to look for older adventure games most of which 
have been modified for newer systems, and often on sale on some weekends at 
good prices. They are only downloadable but they have some good old 
adventure games and some not so old. I've bought quite a few there.
There are still some adventure games which are released now and then. 
Unfortunately for us adventurers, not nearly as many as earlier times, but 
still some.

Mary

"Mary" <nospamXX@invalid.net> wrote:
> "Brian" <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote in message 
> news:1717250769393173583.815371bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com...
>> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
>> they dying out?
>> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I liked Myst Exile (Myst III)  the best in the Myst series. I played the 
> original Myst and Riven and Myst Exile. I think I also got Myst IV (Myst 
> Revelation) but never finished it. I thought it was boring. I didn't like 
> the original Myst much though I played it and finished it. I found it and 
> Riven too hard for me. I found Myst Exile hard too but found it more 
> interesting and have played it a few times since. It looks like you are in 
> New Zealand, so if you can't find it there, you might find it on Ebay or 
> Amazon.com (US site) by a seller, if they ship to NZ.
> 
> www.gog.com is a good place to look for older adventure games most of which 
> have been modified for newer systems, and often on sale on some weekends at 
> good prices. They are only downloadable but they have some good old 
> adventure games and some not so old. I've bought quite a few there.
> There are still some adventure games which are released now and then. 
> Unfortunately for us adventurers, not nearly as many as earlier times, but 
> still some.
> 
> Mary

Thanks Many for the advice and site address.
I don't know why action games dominated the market over adventure games.
Maybe there is more artwork with the scenery in graphic adventure games
that takes time to create and also there is a thrill of shooting at
something. The was a time when games such as Kings Quest, Police Quest etc
were very popular and people didn't mind the bad graphics. Simulation games
also seem to be less in demand.

Its difficult to set a difficulty level with adventure games. If they are
too easy there is a lack of feeling that you have achieved something and if
they are too difficult then you start to loose interest in the game and
feel that you have wasted your money in buying it. I feel that they need to
build in a hint option when the player needs it as not all players are good
at solving adventure games.

-- 
Regards Brian

On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:22:51 GMT, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,
Brian wrote: 

>"Mary" <nospamXX@invalid.net> wrote:
>> "Brian" <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote in message 
>> news:1717250769393173583.815371bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com...
>>> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
>>> they dying out?
>>> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
>> 
>> Brian,
>> 
>> I liked Myst Exile (Myst III)  the best in the Myst series. I played the 
>> original Myst and Riven and Myst Exile. I think I also got Myst IV (Myst 
>> Revelation) but never finished it. I thought it was boring. I didn't like 
>> the original Myst much though I played it and finished it. I found it and 
>> Riven too hard for me. I found Myst Exile hard too but found it more 
>> interesting and have played it a few times since. It looks like you are in 
>> New Zealand, so if you can't find it there, you might find it on Ebay or 
>> Amazon.com (US site) by a seller, if they ship to NZ.
>> 
>> www.gog.com is a good place to look for older adventure games most of which 
>> have been modified for newer systems, and often on sale on some weekends at 
>> good prices. They are only downloadable but they have some good old 
>> adventure games and some not so old. I've bought quite a few there.
>> There are still some adventure games which are released now and then. 
>> Unfortunately for us adventurers, not nearly as many as earlier times, but 
>> still some.
>> 
>> Mary
>
>Thanks Many for the advice and site address.
>I don't know why action games dominated the market over adventure games.
>Maybe there is more artwork with the scenery in graphic adventure games
>that takes time to create and also there is a thrill of shooting at
>something. The was a time when games such as Kings Quest, Police Quest etc
>were very popular and people didn't mind the bad graphics. Simulation games
>also seem to be less in demand.
>
Well, I think there are a series of tricks and traps that adventure games
have, fetch, abstract puzzle, etc. and the repertoire runs out pretty
quickly.

Action games are always unpredictable due to their second-by-second, near
random nature, but pre-planned adventure games simply became far too
same-y to support the market.

Myst-alikes got old even quicker, due to the nature of the puzzles. It is
difficult to innovate further in such a genre.

Doesn't stop those of us who appreciate a subscription to "Games"
magazine however, but it doesn't have the mass market appeal that action
games have.

My 2 cents, of course.

>Its difficult to set a difficulty level with adventure games. If they are
>too easy there is a lack of feeling that you have achieved something and if
>they are too difficult then you start to loose interest in the game and
>feel that you have wasted your money in buying it. I feel that they need to
>build in a hint option when the player needs it as not all players are good
>at solving adventure games.

Yeah. That and stump blocker puzzles and the prevalence of walkthroughs,
including the inevitable and famous "buy the hint booklet" puzzle that
became ubiquitous as a cheat to gain revenue. Irrational and obtuse
puzzles piss me off, and they became commonplace.

Besides that canard, the walkthroughs are pretty hard to resist, and it
also ruins the primary reward of the game. I remember being stumped for
half a year on the "Feel Free" puzzle in Zork II before I experienced the
"eureka!" I got most of the way through Zork III in the meantime, with
its ingenious "scoring" system.

No longer. Either I no longer have the patience, or the walkthroughs are
far too easy to access. Or something in between. Or neither.

">Take rock.
 > You take the rock.

 >Beat head with rock."
 > There is a satisfying thumping noise.

LOL.

-- 
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On 2013-06-17, Brian wrote:

> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
> they dying out?
> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
>

They are still being made, albeit mostly by independent studios and on
lower budgets than other genres. Also, a visit to kickstarter.com will
reveal many adventure gaming projects that you can support if you wish so.

-- 
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http://www.statsfair.com/ 

Giorgos Tzampanakis <giorgos.tzampanakis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2013-06-17, Brian wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
>> they dying out?
>> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
>> 
> 
> They are still being made, albeit mostly by independent studios and on
> lower budgets than other genres. Also, a visit to kickstarter.com will
> reveal many adventure gaming projects that you can support if you wish so.

Thanks for the link Giorgos.
I came across the Adventure Maker software from www.adventuremaker.com site
making it easier to create graphic adventures.

-- 
Regards Brian

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:57:07 GMT, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

>I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
>they dying out?
>If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
>
>-- 
>Regards adventure

Consult  www.gog.com.  GOG has a full selection of classic adventures
and is also including newer ones, many from indie developers.

Coincidentally, there is a 60% off Sale on a 21-unit selection of
GOG's classic graphics adventures collection this weekend thru July 7,
See:-

http://www.gog.com/promo/adventures_weekend_promo_050713

Click on the cover picture in the above list for access to each game
description/pictures/trailer and accompanying user-reviews.

ALL COMPLETELY (and legally) DRM-FREE and , if necessary, updated for
modern OS. Some come with both Intel-Mac and Windows installers. 

GOG downloads also  come with a full set of "extras" including the
game manual. Many of the adventure games have"game-guides" included,
some polished up by GOG from publicly available "walk-thrus"

STEAM is also adding to its adventure collection, mostly from indie
developers... of course you will then have to deal with Steam-DRM
( mandatory Steam account, restricted to playing on one PC at a time
with on-line Steam access required to transfer permission to run the
game on another PC, etc...).  Also, with older games on Steam, be very
careful to note the listed OS requirements. Steam (Valve) does not
make any special effort to ensure executable-compatibility with the
latest OS.

John Lewis

John Lewis <john.dsl@frontier.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:57:07 GMT, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for games like Myst. Can you still buy adventure games or are
>> they dying out?
>> If there are adventure games about then what are the names of these games?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards adventure
> 
> Consult  www.gog.com.  GOG has a full selection of classic adventures
> and is also including newer ones, many from indie developers.
> 
> Coincidentally, there is a 60% off Sale on a 21-unit selection of
> GOG's classic graphics adventures collection this weekend thru July 7,
> See:-
> 
> http://www.gog.com/promo/adventures_weekend_promo_050713
> 
> Click on the cover picture in the above list for access to each game
> description/pictures/trailer and accompanying user-reviews.
> 
> ALL COMPLETELY (and legally) DRM-FREE and , if necessary, updated for
> modern OS. Some come with both Intel-Mac and Windows installers. 
> 
> GOG downloads also  come with a full set of "extras" including the
> game manual. Many of the adventure games have"game-guides" included,
> some polished up by GOG from publicly available "walk-thrus"
> 
> STEAM is also adding to its adventure collection, mostly from indie
> developers... of course you will then have to deal with Steam-DRM
> ( mandatory Steam account, restricted to playing on one PC at a time
> with on-line Steam access required to transfer permission to run the
> game on another PC, etc...).  Also, with older games on Steam, be very
> careful to note the listed OS requirements. Steam (Valve) does not
> make any special effort to ensure executable-compatibility with the
> latest OS.
> 
> John Lewis

Thanks John.

-- 
Regards Brian