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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:21:36 GMT, Joe62 <NOSPAM...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>erimess wrote:
>
>>And, yes, it *is* the same thing.  It's just that everyone forgets
>>that there's another side -- and that side consists of people, just
>>like you, and their money, just like you.  But apparently no one
>>thinks that side has any rights.
>
>Corporations are not people, so it is not at all the same thing. To
>assign them the same rights as a person as a matter of course is
>lunacy.

Yes, I realize this is old, but I've had some personal things going on
and haven't been on here.  I'm only answering this, because this
attitude is starting to *really* tick me off, so I'm going to have my
say about it.

First of all, NOT ALL COMPANIES ARE CORPORATIONS!!!!!!!  I am SOOOOO
sick of hearing this.  Corporations are in the minority.  And a good
many of those are small, closely held corporations.  I'm tired of
everyone acting like every issue that is related to employment is
somehow related to the "big, bad corporation."  This is just total
bull.

Sole proprietorships and partnerships are owned *directly* by people.
They OWN those companies.  It's their property.  It's their
investment.  Just like your house.  This is also true of the small
closely held corporations.

As for the the minority of companies that happen to be bigger,
publicly traded companies, they ARE owned by people.  They're called
stockholders.  Yes, I realize most people also interpret stockholders
as "bad people."  But it's their money.  They invested in that company
and have a stake in that company.  If you invest your money into
something, are you saying you have no interest in what happens to your
money?  You have no say in the matter?  The employees have their
rights, but you as a stockholder would also be a PERSON and have
rights.  Do the employees have MORE rights?  NO!!

So to say that we shouldn't give the same rights to corporations as we
do to people is basically saying we shouldn't give the same rights to
stockholders as we do to people.  Huh?  Stockholders ARE people.  So
you're saying we shouldn't give the same rights to SOME people as we
do to OTHER people?  They're all people.

I hate to tell you this, but the economy is one big giant circle, and
everything that happens affects everything else.  And it all comes
back to people, whether the person is an employee, a stockholder, a
customer, a patient, whatever... it will always come back around to
people.  You don't want the government telling you what brand of bread
you have to buy.  And you say, it's a loaf of bread, not a person, so
it has no rights, and therefore I should have the right to choose.
Who makes the bread?  People.  But I bet you don't think about them,
do you?  Do they have rights?  Of course.  So why doesn't the
government make a law about which brand you have to buy so that you
can help keep someone in a job.  If you think that sounds ridiculous,
it's because you're not getting the analogy.

---
erimess

My therapist told me a way to achieve 
inner peace was to finish things I had 
started. Today I finished 2 bags of potato 
chips, a lemon pie, a fifth of Jack Daniel's 
and a small box of chocolate candy. 
I feel better already.