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4 total messages Started by mnim... Marc Nimchuk Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00
P120 enough for SVGA?
#6932
Author: mnim... Marc Nimchuk
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00
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I just purchased a P120/8 megs ram/ATI WinTurbo 2megsVRAM for equal duty 
between schoolwork, telecommuting, and yeah, games.  I was under the 
impression that a 120 mhz pentium would be more than adequate for running 
action games in SVGA mode (the 66mhz Powermac I was using before was 
*almost* enough to drive 3D action games such as Dark Forces and 
Marathon2 in SVGA at high frame rates), but after sifting through many of 
the threads in the various c.s.i.p.g.* groups I now find myself concerned.

Does the 120 mhz pentium have enough guts to run these 3D action games in 
SVGA?  I'd be very disappointed in the hardware if it doesnt.  The switch 
from Mac to PC was painful enough to make, if performance is going to be 
less than stellar I'll be doubly crushed...

Any real info?

TIA!
Re: P120 enough for SVGA?
#6933
Author: E. Nokling
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00
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mnim...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Marc Nimchuk) wrote:
>I just purchased a P120/8 megs ram/ATI WinTurbo 2megsVRAM for equal duty 
>between schoolwork, telecommuting, and yeah, games.  I was under the 
>impression that a 120 mhz pentium would be more than adequate for running 
>action games in SVGA mode (the 66mhz Powermac I was using before was 
>*almost* enough to drive 3D action games such as Dark Forces and 
>Marathon2 in SVGA at high frame rates), but after sifting through many of 
>the threads in the various c.s.i.p.g.* groups I now find myself concerned.
>
>Does the 120 mhz pentium have enough guts to run these 3D action games in 
>SVGA?  I'd be very disappointed in the hardware if it doesnt.  The switch 
>from Mac to PC was painful enough to make, if performance is going to be 
>less than stellar I'll be doubly crushed...
>
>Any real info?
>
>TIA!


I belive programing knowledge and processor-power
TOGETHER will bring 640x480 SVGA real-3D graphics
to the PC this winter. Magic Carpet 2 for example
runs 70 % - 100% faster on same Pentium system.
The same will probably be the case for Descent 2,
Quake, and other 3D-games from quality progamming
teams like Id, 3D Realms, Bullfrog etc.

Together with 120, 133, and 150 MHz Pentiums these
should give SVGA at 30 fps.

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Re: P120 enough for SVGA?
#6934
Author: jso... Jeff Somers
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:00
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In article <43teph$7...@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca>, mnim...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Marc Nimchuk) writes:
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|> Does the 120 mhz pentium have enough guts to run these 3D action games in 
|> SVGA?  I'd be very disappointed in the hardware if it doesnt.  The switch 
|> from Mac to PC was painful enough to make, if performance is going to be 
|> less than stellar I'll be doubly crushed...
|> 
|> Any real info?
|> 
|> TIA!

Depends on the game.  I have a P-120, and Wing Commander III runs
great in SVGA, Nascar does fine (I have to turn off a few options)
and System Shock runs well in 640x400 (or whatever the second-to-
highest resolution is).  However, there are games out there that
can choke any PC.  Flight Unlimited can run, I think, at 1024x
768, a resolution designed for future PCs, not current ones.

A lot also depends on the video card.  I have a card (ATI GX)
that's good in DOS and Windows, but it ain't state of the art.
I could get better performance by upgrading the card.

Don't worry.  Your P-120 will do fine for action games.  But 
if you're expecting to play action games at 640x480 that 
completely fill the screen with texture mapping and play at 
30 frames/second, you'll be disappointed -- the PC just can't
handle that with today's hardware.

jeff s.
jso...@marcam.com
Re: P120 enough for SVGA?
#6935
Author: char... Charles Lee
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 00:00
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mnim...@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Marc Nimchuk) wrote:

>I just purchased a P120/8 megs ram/ATI WinTurbo 2megsVRAM for equal duty 
>between schoolwork, telecommuting, and yeah, games.  I was under the 
>impression that a 120 mhz pentium would be more than adequate for running 
>action games in SVGA mode (the 66mhz Powermac I was using before was 
>*almost* enough to drive 3D action games such as Dark Forces and 
>Marathon2 in SVGA at high frame rates), but after sifting through many of 
>the threads in the various c.s.i.p.g.* groups I now find myself concerned.

>Does the 120 mhz pentium have enough guts to run these 3D action games in 
>SVGA?  I'd be very disappointed in the hardware if it doesnt.  The switch 
>from Mac to PC was painful enough to make, if performance is going to be 
>less than stellar I'll be doubly crushed...

>Any real info?

>TIA!

I think once you have a fast processor, the video card then becomes
the major factor in how fast your games run.  The fastest DOS cards
seem to be the Hercules Stingray, the Diamond Stealth 64 (which I have
-with 2MB VRAM), and possibly the new Matrox Millenium.  Also, I found
that the Triton chipset is much better than my SIS chipset that I had
previously.

And of course, it also depends on how efficiently the games are
written...

-Charles
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