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Kyle Klukas <klu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>For all you Doom/Heretic fans, Hexen (formerly Heretic II) will be out on 
>October 30 accoring to Raven/Id.  Check out the Rumor Mill at 
>www.portal.com/~hleukart/rumors.html for details.  The screenshots are 
>COOL.  It looks like Id did it again (will put out another great game) :)
>
>Kyle
>
Is there going to be a demo?  I imagine that there will not be a shareware version 
as Doom II did not have a shareware version.

Jef Curlin (jef_c...@hp-corvallis.om.hp.com) wrote:
: Kyle Klukas <klu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >For all you Doom/Heretic fans, Hexen (formerly Heretic II) will be out on 
: >October 30 accoring to Raven/Id.  Check out the Rumor Mill at 
: >www.portal.com/~hleukart/rumors.html for details.  The screenshots are 
: >COOL.  It looks like Id did it again (will put out another great game) :)
: >
: >Kyle
: >
: Is there going to be a demo?  I imagine that there will not be a shareware version 
: as Doom II did not have a shareware version.

Doom ][ didn't need a demo because doom 1 shareware showed everything you
needed to see.  Extra monsters, weapons, levels, in registered version.(doom2)
If Heretic ][ is better than the first tho, I hope theres a shareware to show
us all the coo new additions.  But if it's just new monsters, weapons, levels,
then its just another doom2...
     -Qyv

Kyle Klukas <klu...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>My understanding is that both Raven and Rogue are kinda-sorta divisions
>of id software.  If this is wrong . . . oops - so sorry.  id is
>supervising Hexen development from what I read at the Rumor Mill.  And if
>you direct order Heretic, you call id's phone service :)
>By the way, loved Heretic.  As with most games, its a matter of personal
>taste and there is no "right" or "wrong" about it.
>Kyle


heh-heh....i agree....from most of the people i talk to that have
played doom I & II and heretic, most of them say that they really
dislike heretic.....but myself, i love the game...the flying ability
is too cool, and look up/down feature is nice for seeing those
ledges when ya ain't got the wings..<g>...and most will disagree
with me on this, but, i think that the last patch for doom/doom2
should have incorporated look up/down, and mebbe added
a jetpack type thing for flying....IMHO.......but oh, well, not
to be.....and the screen shots of hexen....too cool...specially
since this will add a different stroke onto the deathmatch
scene...you'll hafta know the powers of three different classes
of weapons/spells....heh-heh...just think, most prolly won't
play the cleric and whind up making a huge mistake with
playing dmatch against him...<g>...mebbe a hand of god
squeeze or somethin like that.... ;-))

BTW, since this is the 2nd heretic, it will be available like
doom2, right (store bought)?  or is it a 1-800-idgames only??

l8r
MacDeath
eagerly anticipating halloween for the first time in quite a few
years..... :-))

My understanding is that both Raven and Rogue are kinda-sorta divisions 
of id software.  If this is wrong . . . oops - so sorry.  id is 
supervising Hexen development from what I read at the Rumor Mill.  And if 
you direct order Heretic, you call id's phone service :)

By the way, loved Heretic.  As with most games, its a matter of personal 
taste and there is no "right" or "wrong" about it.  

Kyle






Doom - keep the faith!

In a previous article, klu...@students.uiuc.edu (Kyle Klukas) says:

>For all you Doom/Heretic fans, Hexen (formerly Heretic II) will be out on 
>October 30 accoring to Raven/Id.  Check out the Rumor Mill at 
>www.portal.com/~hleukart/rumors.html for details.  The screenshots are 
>COOL.  It looks like Id did it again (will put out another great game) :)

For your information: Heretic and Hexen are primary Raven games. Since
it's using an enhanced (or rather degraded) version of the Doom-engine,
id might have helped out a bit too though.

As for the screenshots: I don't get my hopes up. Heretic sucked... and it
looks like Raven simply put in some more weapons and monsters. And just
as in Heretic the wepons don't look convincing at all. I prefer a 
shotgun anytime! The monsters lack character somehow... and the caped
crucaders I see during deathmatch are actually quite hilarious.

id should never have given its engine to Raven... but well, what's done
is done. And I don't *have* to play the game *grin* I do hope though
that Strife makes a better use of id's Doom-engine.

Greetz,

RS 

bl...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Smol) writes:

>In a previous article, klu...@students.uiuc.edu (Kyle Klukas) says:

>As for the screenshots: I don't get my hopes up. Heretic sucked... and it
>looks like Raven simply put in some more weapons and monsters. And just
>as in Heretic the wepons don't look convincing at all. I prefer a 
>shotgun anytime! The monsters lack character somehow... and the caped
>crucaders I see during deathmatch are actually quite hilarious.

	I disagree... While I wasn't crazy about Heretic at first, in time
I found that the new features surpass many things seen in DOOM.  Weapons
like the KFC-9000 (Chicken-Bomb) make Deathmatch a unique experience.  In
DOOM, all enemies have a maximum of one attack/skill with the meager 
exceptions of the Revenant (two missile types plus close range), and the
Arch-Vile (long-range fire plus resurrection).  Even then, they're not too
tough.  Look at any of the bosses in Heretic.  The Iron Liches have at least
three different attacks to keep you on your toes.  When fighting DOOM's
Cyberdemon, you KNOW what to expect at all times.

	Also, you can't overlook the ability to carry items in Heretic.
Very convenient.


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Richard Smol (bl...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:

: In a previous article, klu...@students.uiuc.edu (Kyle Klukas) says:

: >For all you Doom/Heretic fans, Hexen (formerly Heretic II) will be out on 
: >October 30 accoring to Raven/Id.  Check out the Rumor Mill at 
: >www.portal.com/~hleukart/rumors.html for details.  The screenshots are 
: >COOL.  It looks like Id did it again (will put out another great game) :)

: As for the screenshots: I don't get my hopes up. Heretic sucked... and it
: looks like Raven simply put in some more weapons and monsters. And just
: as in Heretic the wepons don't look convincing at all. I prefer a 
: shotgun anytime! The monsters lack character somehow... and the caped
: crucaders I see during deathmatch are actually quite hilarious.

First, let me say, like a lot of DOOM fans I didn't care much for
Heretic.  I thought the colors of the textures were too bright and the
weapons/monsters were not as interesting.

Now, about a month ago I went to id software and John Romero showed
me Hexen.  It look VERY cool.  The colors are darker (give the game
a more ominous feel), the monsters looked rad, and the one weapon
I saw (a hammer) was awesome.  The game also had a few other cool
improvements.  There were leaves in the game that would blow around
for a nice effect.  Also, the programmers at Raven have apparently
modified the BSP routines as there are now doors that are hinged on
a Z-axis (much like a conventional door)

I am not sure how the game will be overall, but this little glimpse
looked very good.

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Steve Larsen
lar...@sunset.cs.utah.edu

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