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Started by Eugen... Eugen Woiwod
Sun, 17 Sep 1995 00:00
Re: Windows 95 & OS/2
Author: Eugen... Eugen Woiwod
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 00:00
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 00:00
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> > : Won't make a dent? I'd call forcing them to stop charging OEM's > for one > : copy of their product for each computer shipped regardless of what was > : shipped on it more than making a dent. Let me make sure you're clear > on that: > > : A Microsoft OEM ships a computer with OS/2 Warp Red installed and > nothing > : else. (Red, BTW, no Win-OS/2 code shipped with OS/2) > : OEM then pays Microsoft for one copy of MS-DOS and Windows. > > I'll say it again, slowly, so you can understand: OEMs are usually run by > adults, who can read what they're signing. I'm willing to bet money that > NOT ONE of them was forced at gunpoint to sign any deals with Microsoft. > > You have an amazing lack of understanding about the history of the > industry and how the software market works. Are you even out of college > yet? Where's your dogma come from? OS/2 user group meetings? Infoworld? > > Scott Scott, grow up. You sound like some 15 yr old with one HELL of a big mouth. And BTW if OS/2 is so bad, then take a look at this msg. Taken from MIND LINK! on Sun Sep 17 17:10:27 1995 Sun Sep 17 08:38:54 1995 Message : #31975739 From: sha...@connix.com Group : Usenet.comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Length : 249 words Subject : Re: Windows 95 & OS/2 Msg-ID: <43he7h$a...@comet.connix.com> References: <DEy66...@hr.ns.nl> Posted: 17 Sep 1995 15:18:09 GMT Org. : ASAP Computers (http://www.connix.com/~asapcomp) using OS/2 Warp In <DEy66...@hr.ns.nl>, Illya Vaes <iv...@hr.ns.nl> writes: >T Maund <gat...@u.washington.edu> writes: > >Would you mind telling the rest of the world where all those apps are (present >tense), 'cause I've only seen Office 95. Or is that enough? >There are more OS/2 apps than NT and Windows 95 apps combined. It *might* >change, but this is the way it is. The *only* absence is the vendor Microsoft. >(And that includes games) Actually, you're ALMOST right. Aparently, MS was pretty worried about Win-95 last year, because a friend of mine who works there brought home a nice little toy - MS Office for OS/2. Let me tell you - That's a NICE product! The way it should be: MS makes great apps, but can't do shit for an OS - they oughtta just make their killing on apps for someone else's OS. Also, while on the line with Tech. Support to help diagnose a really strange MS-Word bug in one of our customer's machines, the tech support guy accidentally told me to 'Hit both mouse buttons and tell me what's in the Window List'. He also slipped and said 'Go to the Drives fol... I mean exit Windows and run ChkDsk.' Maybe he's just used to OS/2 at home, but it made me think... When I said "What're you running over there, OS/2?" he said "OS/2? Yeah, right!" Hmm? -=Shadow, TIP #997 'Team ASAP' ASAP Web Page: http://www.connix.com/~asapcomp Now you tell me Scott, if OS/2 is so bad as you make it sound(and man do you ever go on) then how come Microsoft had made a MS Office for OS/2 then? :-) I'll agree with Shadow, Microsoft makes great app's (Word and Excel and others) but they just frankly suck at making OS's. Most everyone will agree that OS/2 and WIN95 both have thier problem's. The way I see it "You use whatever fucking OS you like and that's that" :-) Ttul
Re: Windows 95 & OS/2
Author: syd... Scott Butler
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 00:00
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Eugen Woiwod (Eugen_...@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote: : > I'll say it again, slowly, so you can understand: OEMs are usually run by : > adults, who can read what they're signing. I'm willing to bet money that : > NOT ONE of them was forced at gunpoint to sign any deals with Microsoft. : > : > You have an amazing lack of understanding about the history of the : > industry and how the software market works. Are you even out of college : > yet? Where's your dogma come from? OS/2 user group meetings? Infoworld? : > : > Scott : Scott, grow up. You sound like some 15 yr old with one HELL of a big mouth. "Eugen": piss off. I'm responding to a lot of half-truths and inaccuracies put forth by a few OS/who? teamsters. Don't like it? Don't read this thread. : And BTW if OS/2 is so bad, then take a look at this msg. [clumsily quoted article nuked - get a newsreader!] Several points: (a) If you'd been paying any attention at all to this thread, you'd realize my main point has been (a) OS/2 is NOT better, overall, than Windows 95 (and certainly Windows NT), and that Windows 95 will be the dominant gaming platform (remember gaming?); (b) Microsoft having a version of Office for OS/2 (I doubt this, but it's possible) doesn't mean much. Microsoft is the #1 developer of apps for Windows chief competitor, the Macintosh. : Now you tell me Scott, if OS/2 is so bad as you make it sound(and man do : you ever go on) then how come Microsoft had made a MS Office for OS/2 then? I go on, huh? Tell you what - you go back and count the number of messages "morpheus", Steve Lamb, has contributed to this little thread, and then count mine. He's literally posted about 5 times more than me. : :-) I'll agree with Shadow, Microsoft makes great app's (Word and Excel and : others) but they just frankly suck at making OS's. Most everyone will agree : that OS/2 and WIN95 both have thier problem's. The way I see it Well, Microsoft was the original architect of OS/2. By your reasoning, then, OS/2 must suck as well. Right? I don't think OS/2 "sucks". I think it was a good product, and still has some positive aspects. I will maintain, though, that its days are severely numbered. Windows 95/NT will be the dominant PC OS for the next several years. Get used to it. : "You use whatever fucking OS you like and that's that" :-) Hey! Finally! A statement I can agree with.... Scott
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