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Article #707153Re: some thoughts about nazism and games
From: BB
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:00
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The (approximately) 6 million Jews who were deliberately exterminated by the Nazis came from all over Europe, not just Germany. I find it very sad that, 55 years on, we are not only losing those who directly experienced these horrors but we have people popping up who are denying the very reality of those experiences. I have personally met two survivors of the death camps who had the rest of their family murdered simply because they were Jewish. These people survived because they were "lucky" enough to be needed for labouring jobs within the camps (including the disposal of gassed bodies in one case) around the time of their liberation. A few more weeks and they would both have been killed too. It is difficult to know what this man with his irrational theories about Jews and his seeming hatred of them is really arguing here. Is it that there were only 5 million Jews gassed, shot or starved to death? 4 million maybe? 1 million, perhaps? Were there "only" 10,000 murdered in the death camps? The figure of 6 million was based on the best information available to the conquering allies. A number of institutions devoted to studying the holocaust can still name many of them. The sheer scale of the horror of World War 2 is impossible for present generations to fully understand. The only armed conflicts that we know from our modern news reports are mere skirmishes in comparison. For instance, how many really know that there were about *20 million* Soviet Union civilians and military personnel killed in World War 2? Most of those were civilians who were murdered in what would now be called "ethnic cleansing" by the SS and Nazi-led troops and, of course, many of those were Jewish. The true horror of the attempted extermination of the European Jews was a combination of both its scale and its motive. These people were murdered simply *because* they were Jewish. They were not part of some great imagined Jewish conspiracy. They were just ordinary people who were usually parted from their loved ones and put through enormous suffering before being mercilessly killed, all to satisfy the demands of some insane and evil ideology. May their souls rest in peace. **** ****** <jdig...@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:eqDC3.44$85.1354@newsr2.elp.rr.com... > Read the 1945 World Almanac and see if there was "6million" people in > Germany much less "6 million" jews. dick > > > Matt Bowman <Ma...@jungsite.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:D6+s9BAYDn23MwW5@jungsite.demon.co.uk... > > In article <d9jC3.4$85....@newsr1.elp.rr.com>, **** ****** > > <jdig...@elp.rr.com> writes > > >Well, the facts about the inflated number of jews that died in the camps > ARE > > >documented,hell there weren't that many jews in ALL of Europe at the > time. > > >And as far as "sucking dry" is concerned you're right, England did that > and > > >all around the world (the country is run by the jewish > bankers,Vanderbuilt > > >ring a bell history buff ?).You read your history about Ireland and see > how > > >they raped that place and tried to starve out the Irish while they > leveled > > >the forest to build their ships. Ignorant....no I just don't eat up jew > > >propaganda > > > > > > > > oh boy, you are one ignorant motherfucker > > > > there is no point trying to reason with a shithead like this. > > > > Have you ever studied history in your life or did you just read some > > article in Nazi weekly? > > > > You can deny that existence of 6 million people if you like but it only > > proves you have lost your connection with reality. > > -- > > Matt Bowman > >
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From: "B&B" <bunmohNOSP...@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: some thoughts about nazism and games Date: 1999/09/12 Message-ID: <7rg2mg$mvv$1@m2.c2.telstra-mm.net.au> X-Deja-AN: 524053391 References: <7r4een$80m$1@diana.bcn.ttd.net><37d5c599.6170094@news.jancomulti.com> <xBWB3.14$85.642@newsr2.elp.rr.com><7r9e7r$ofi$1@news2.news.iol.ie> <d9jC3.4$85.746@newsr1.elp.rr.com> <D6+s9BAYDn23MwW5@jungsite.demon.co.uk> <eqDC3.44$85.1354@newsr2.elp.rr.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Complaints-To: ne...@m2.c2.telstra-mm.net.au X-Trace: m2.c2.telstra-mm.net.au 937135632 23551 24.192.94.164 (12 Sep 1999 11:27:11 GMT) Organization: Telstra Big Pond Cable - Sydney Site 1 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 1999 11:27:11 GMT Newsgroups: 3dfx.games,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.games.unreal,at.freizeit.rollenspiele,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,de.alt.games.unreal,de.rec.spiele.computer.action,de.rec.spiele.misc,z-netz.alt.rollenspiele,z-netz.rechner.spiele MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit