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In article <BJn0mqrP...@vestnett.no> ter...@vestnett.no (Terje A. Bergesen) writes:
>In article <3ttt34$a...@itsmail1.hamilton.edu>,
>jma...@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy) wrote:
>
>[Compress]
>> Sigh. I explained this already.  Where did the rumor start about the
>> Plus! pack being a bug fix?  (Ah, my dear Terje, what was it some ostwo
>> teamster was saying about the extraordinary civility of the ostwo poster?)
>
>It is VERY difficult to be polite with people like yourself. 

And why is that?

>Becides - I don't
>concider my selfe an OS/2 advocate. 

Yet you are, you just mask it as...

>I concider my self an advocate of
>quality. I make a living of computers, and would like my work to be as
>fun as possible. OS/2 is nice to work with, so I advocate that, NT is
>nice to work with (now that resource req's have come down) so I advocate
>that. I like UNIX a lot, and advocate LINUX and AIX in the appropriate
>fora.

That's nice.  I suppose you think I've never ever recommended ostwo, eh? 
Not even warped, huh?

>> Let's assume it *will* contain bug fixes: are you of the opinion that
>> Microsoft will *not* release the fixes separately?   If they do release
>> the bug fixes separately (a likely occurrence), what's so bad about the
>> Plus! pack containing them as well? 
>
>Well, here we are getting somewhere. I stated in another post that it
>would be plain stupid of MS NOT to include bugfixes - if they exist -
>in the plus pack. This thread is about wether the plus pack is an upgrade/
>bug fix or not. I believe it is. It will bring Win95 closer to it original
>goals, but not by much. It will probably - if MS have them ready by then -
>contain bug fixes.

I don't know where we're getting, but I addressed this point in another
message.  To prevent a tech support nightmare, MS probably won't release
bug fixes in a product that, by MS's own recommendation, not everybody
should buy and which would be different from the regularly release bug
patches.  It's as simple as that.  (Tech support question: "Which version
of the CSD do you have, the version on the Plus! Pack, the version
released on CD, or the version released by Joe's Computing Plus Pack CD
Company?  They're all different, you see...")

>
>> My point has been that MS is almost surely not going to force you to buy
>> the Plus! pack just to get the fixes.  They, themselves, advertise the
>> Plus! pack for 486 and higher processor machines with at least 8 MB ram;
>> what about all the 386s in the world?
>
>No, but MS advocates have been denying very hard that the plus pack will
>be a bug fix... So...

Ah, that's your proof!  MS advocates are saying it's not, so it must be
so!  Well, maybe.  Here another point from this "MS advocate":  os2's
gonna do *real* well after August 24!  For that matter, ostwo  is doing
real well *now* (I saw a software store with a large display about Windows
95 urging customer to "place your order now"; In addition, it made front
page news on the recent edition of USA Today, go figure!) 

(Why anyone would deny the Plus! pack would contain bug fixes when
Microsoft has said it plans to release bug fixes for Windows 95 is beyond
me; I just think you're blowin' smoke.)