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Re: some thoughts about nazism and games

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From: zif... Heiko Nock
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 00:00
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In article <7r4een$80m$1...@diana.bcn.ttd.net>, F r e e wrote:

>1) Many role and FPS games use nazi-like or nazi symbolism: power, magic,
>blood&honor, aggresive eagles, skulls, runes and signs.

You forgot food, men, air and water.

>In (more or less) historical games this doesn't matter. (BTW, i don't 
>understand a f**k why in Germany and elsewhere they have troubles with 
>Mortyr, where you have to kill the nazis).

So it's ok to kill Nazis ? Because they are Nazis, right ?

>2) But i see a disgusting influence from those games that make the gamer
>identify him/herself with those stupid simbolsim. That's creating sympathy
>for very unsympathic fantasies.

Exactly, especially if using those symbols in the game doesn't have any
relevance to the plot, like in Doom for example.

>3 bis) I just remember Age of Empires, where some kinda priests had a role,
>which Hitler (and the Popes) would have loved (dominate by the power of
>words). Unbelievable, Bil Gates the Atheist sells it!

Of course. He, too, dominates the software industry by marketing. And
what is marketing, if not lots of words.

>4) Considering that the *real* heroes that won the WWII and knew the enemy
>are getting very old, and considering the lack of historical
>education/interest and evaluation of the youngest generation, the number of
>people that find the SS stuff, etc., fancy could increase, right?

It is rather unlikely that this topic has not been addressed during
school lessons, so everybody should know at least what symbols like
that stand for.

>I think we should email those game companies and tell them to put more
>creativity in their games and to stop repeating old, disgusting fascist
>symbols!

Have you seen any games that are using those kind of symbols lately ?
Besides Mortyr, that is. I haven't. Game companies are not stupid. If
it's not worth it, they keep those things out of their games, so they
don't endanger their sales in Germany, which is quite a big market.

-- 
Ciao, Heiko...
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From: zif...@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de (Heiko Nock)
Subject: Re: some thoughts about nazism and games
Date: 1999/09/08
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