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Re: Would this computer be good for PC Gaming?

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From: The Dude
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 00:11
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On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 4:54:53 PM UTC-5, The Dude wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-5, Ross Ridge wrote:
> > The Dude  <craigme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >It normally goes for $2799 Canadian but is on sale for $1999 right now.
> > >Do you think this is a worthy purchase?
> > 
> > Well, given a $2000 price it's not all that bad, but it's probably more
> > than you need in some areas, and seriously lacking in one key area.
> > 
> > Specifically:
> > 
> > >Operating System Windows 10 Home 64bit English 
> > 
> > Reasonable choice, Windows Pro or Ultimate aren't going to give anything
> > you'd likely actually use.
> >  
> > >Processor Intel® Core™ i7-7700K Processor (4-Cores, 8MB Cache, Turbo
> > >Boost 2.0, Overclocked up to 4.4GHz) 
> > 
> > The CPU is mostly reasonable, it's probably more than you need, but at
> > the price its OK.
> > 
> > >Memory 16GB DDR4 at 2400MHz; up to 64GB (additional memory sold separately) 
> > 
> > That's enough, though I'd prefer more RAM.
> > 
> > >Video Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5 
> > 
> > Reasonable enough, though a GTX 1070 is more than you need than enough
> > if you have 1920x1080 monitor.  On the other with higher resolutions
> > you might end up wishing you had a faster card.
> > 
> > >Hard Drive 2TB 7200RPM 6Gb/s 
> > 
> > This is almost insulting.  Pretty much all but the cheapest new computers
> > should have an SSD, as it's pretty much required now.  To give you an
> > idea of the price I just bought a 500 MB SSD and a 3TB 7200 RPM HD for
> > my computer and it cost me CDN $290 total ($180 + $110).
> > 
> > >Chassis Options Alienware™ 850 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
> > >with High Peformance Liquid Cooling 
> > 
> > Way bigger power supply than you need.  Notably you only have a single
> > GPU.  I don't think liquid cooling is really worth it, the parts aren't
> > that hot and you don't sound like you're going to be overclocking.
> > 
> > >Wireless Intel® 3165 1x1 802.11ac Wi-Fi Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.2 
> > 
> > Uhh... what is this?  A laptop?  I assume you don't really need this,
> > but if you do it's reasonable, as it's a pretty cheap add on.
> > 
> > >CD ROM/DVD ROM Tray-loading Blu-ray Burner 
> > 
> > Reasonable in this price range, but you probably don't need a Blu-Ray
> > burner, and maybe not an optical drive at all.
> > 
> > If you build it yourself you can probably get an i7-7700 CPU + motherboard
> > + 16 GB RAM + GTX 1070 + 480 MB SSD + 3 TB HD + case w. 500W power supply
> > + DVD burner + Win10 Home for less than CDN $2000.  If you "rightsize"
> > some of the components and reuse the case from your old computer you
> > could probably get it down to $1000 while still having a PC that can
> > run all your games at 60 FPS at 1920x1080.
> > 
> > On the other hand you'd probably have trouble finding someone that will
> > put all that together for you for $2000.  If you can find a way to get a
> > decent sized SSD into that AlienWare computer, by downsizing or removing
> > things you don't need, and keep it at $2000 it wouldn't be a bad deal.
> > 
> > 					Ross Ridge
> > 
> > -- 
> >  l/  //	  Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
> > [oo][oo]  
> > -()-/()/
> >  db  //
> 
> Thanks Ross and others for being honest and very detailed in your replies.
> I really appreciate it.  
> The biggest hurdle for me building my own or going to a computer builder with a parts list is I don't want to mess up the symbiotic relationship of the parts when they are placed in a case.  I know the basics but not how things work best together.  I also don't want to have hassles when and if something goes wrong post purchase.  I know Dell is not the best maker for the money perhaps, but they have been very good for me to deal with regarding service and warranty coverage after the fact.  
> Anyway, thanks guys and if replies still want to come in, I am very appreciative of it.
> 
> Cheers

BTW....Just got home and checked the website...can add a 128GB M.2 SATA SSD (Boot) to the 2TB hard drive for $125 and can add a 256GB SSD for $250.
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