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Re: Would this computer be good for PC Gaming?

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From: The Dude
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 21:52
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On Tuesday, February 7, 2017 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-5, Ross Ridge wrote:
> The Dude  <craigme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >It normally goes for $2799 Canadian but is on sale for $1999 right now.
> >Do you think this is a worthy purchase?
> 
> Well, given a $2000 price it's not all that bad, but it's probably more
> than you need in some areas, and seriously lacking in one key area.
> 
> Specifically:
> 
> >Operating System Windows 10 Home 64bit English 
> 
> Reasonable choice, Windows Pro or Ultimate aren't going to give anything
> you'd likely actually use.
>  
> >Processor Intel® Core™ i7-7700K Processor (4-Cores, 8MB Cache, Turbo
> >Boost 2.0, Overclocked up to 4.4GHz) 
> 
> The CPU is mostly reasonable, it's probably more than you need, but at
> the price its OK.
> 
> >Memory 16GB DDR4 at 2400MHz; up to 64GB (additional memory sold separately) 
> 
> That's enough, though I'd prefer more RAM.
> 
> >Video Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5 
> 
> Reasonable enough, though a GTX 1070 is more than you need than enough
> if you have 1920x1080 monitor.  On the other with higher resolutions
> you might end up wishing you had a faster card.
> 
> >Hard Drive 2TB 7200RPM 6Gb/s 
> 
> This is almost insulting.  Pretty much all but the cheapest new computers
> should have an SSD, as it's pretty much required now.  To give you an
> idea of the price I just bought a 500 MB SSD and a 3TB 7200 RPM HD for
> my computer and it cost me CDN $290 total ($180 + $110).
> 
> >Chassis Options Alienware™ 850 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
> >with High Peformance Liquid Cooling 
> 
> Way bigger power supply than you need.  Notably you only have a single
> GPU.  I don't think liquid cooling is really worth it, the parts aren't
> that hot and you don't sound like you're going to be overclocking.
> 
> >Wireless Intel® 3165 1x1 802.11ac Wi-Fi Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.2 
> 
> Uhh... what is this?  A laptop?  I assume you don't really need this,
> but if you do it's reasonable, as it's a pretty cheap add on.
> 
> >CD ROM/DVD ROM Tray-loading Blu-ray Burner 
> 
> Reasonable in this price range, but you probably don't need a Blu-Ray
> burner, and maybe not an optical drive at all.
> 
> If you build it yourself you can probably get an i7-7700 CPU + motherboard
> + 16 GB RAM + GTX 1070 + 480 MB SSD + 3 TB HD + case w. 500W power supply
> + DVD burner + Win10 Home for less than CDN $2000.  If you "rightsize"
> some of the components and reuse the case from your old computer you
> could probably get it down to $1000 while still having a PC that can
> run all your games at 60 FPS at 1920x1080.
> 
> On the other hand you'd probably have trouble finding someone that will
> put all that together for you for $2000.  If you can find a way to get a
> decent sized SSD into that AlienWare computer, by downsizing or removing
> things you don't need, and keep it at $2000 it wouldn't be a bad deal.
> 
> 					Ross Ridge
> 
> -- 
>  l/  //	  Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
> [oo][oo]  
> -()-/()/
>  db  //

Thanks Ross and others for being honest and very detailed in your replies.
I really appreciate it.  
The biggest hurdle for me building my own or going to a computer builder with a parts list is I don't want to mess up the symbiotic relationship of the parts when they are placed in a case.  I know the basics but not how things work best together.  I also don't want to have hassles when and if something goes wrong post purchase.  I know Dell is not the best maker for the money perhaps, but they have been very good for me to deal with regarding service and warranty coverage after the fact.  
Anyway, thanks guys and if replies still want to come in, I am very appreciative of it.

Cheers
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