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On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:10:41 -0700, Justisaur <just...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Rin Stowleigh wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:17:58 -0700, Justisaur <just...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Justisaur wrote:
>>>> Not that I can afford it, but another badly optimized console port (The
>>>> Crew) has me thinking I need a new CPU (so I'll need a new MB & Memory,
>>>> and possibly Power Supply.)
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently running an E6850 Dual Core @ 3.0 GHz.  I'm looking over
>>>> the info for CPUs and I see the CPU recommended for GTA V (similar
>>>> issues) includes an intel i5-3470, AMD FX-8350.  From what I can see the
>>>> AMD costs close to half the price ($159 w $59 gift card vs. 230  and
>>>> provides about 25% more power.  Am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't considered a non-intel CPU in ages because the last one I got
>>>> was a POS and had tons of heat and compatibility issues, but AMD's been
>>>> around a long time, so they must be functioning I guess?
>>>>
>>>> Any reason I shouldn't buy one?
>>>>
>>>> Well, while looking them Up on new-egg I see I can buy a whole computer
>>>> with an i5-3470 with 8 GB ram for $271.., or oddly one with 4gb for $214
>>>> which is less than the CPU by itself. I doubt I could assemble something
>>>> like that for anywhere near that price, although I see an 'upgrade kit'
>>>> for $294 for the AMD one with 8gb, but free HD loaded with windows,
>>>> case, PS etc is hard to argue with, especially if I can swap it out to
>>>> my case or give my son the old computer minus the Graphics card (still
>>>> have a 270 I can pop in it to make it useable for his lego games, though
>>>> I'd definately need a new PS if I did that, and that would probably cost
>>>> as much as the computer).
>>>>
>>>> I did just get $200 for my b-day I could just about buy the full
>>>> computer for that.
>>>>
>>>> Or I could forget about buying a CPU to play badly ported console games
>>>> and just buy the game for about $12 on the XBOX 360.  That'd save me at
>>>> least $200.
>>>
>>> It looks like all those cheap computers are HP Small Form Factor trash
>>> with proprietary case & motherboards that won't actually work for
>>> upgrades.
>>>
>>> I found this one:
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8XK4NF8252&cm_re=i7_8gb_refurbished_desktop-_-9SIA8XK4NF8252-_-Product
>>>
>>> i7 2600 3.4Gz, with 8 GB ram, 1 TB HD, DVD player for $269.  What I'm
>>> figuring is buyng that ripping all those parts out and tossing the case,
>>> Power-supply & motherboard.  Especially since the CPU itself would cost
>>> over $400 by itself, so all the rest just saves me money.  I'd need a
>>> new MB, looks like I can get one around $60.  I'd need to buy another
>>> case too if if I want my old computer for my son.
>>
>> Maybe I scanned your post too quickly I can't seem to fully wrap my
>> head around the approach you're taking here.  For a low-end CPU, just
>> picking up a i5-4690k would give you better results than the 2600 and
>> is only about $239.
>>
>> http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=1261
>>
>> I wouldn't mess with some business class refurb just to harvest the
>> CPU.
>>
>
>CPU and Memory, Also the HD & DVD.  I don't NEED another HD or DVD, but 
>it's more parts toward another computer for the son.
>
>According to passmark the i7-2600 is better, but I'm not sure, I've seen 
>mentioned GTA & other console ports work better with more cores, which 
>the 2600 has 2 +2 logical, vs. 4 cores.  I haven't been able to find 
>comparisons for GTA specifically.


Not trying to force my opinion here or anything but the memory is
probably worth thirty bucks probably 1066 DDR3, a used HD 1TB worth
maybe $10 (a new one is $50) and a HD is the last component I would
ever want used or refurb, because of the moving parts, and you don't
know what sort of heat torture its been exposed to in a slim case.

I used to have a slim profile machine refurb many years back, and
every time I put anything greater than a 5400rpm drive in it, the
drive would last about 8 months.  The system was originally designed
and tested with the spec parts, and adding anything of greater
performance added heat that the airflow of the case couldn't properly
handle.  Added heat tends tol reduce the life of a hard drive, which
have a limited average lifespan anyway.

I know you're planning to discard the case, but I'm point that out to
say any hard drive that performs reasonably and has been in that case
for any period of time probably has its days numbered.

I doubt you'd care about the passmark score as much as the other
benchmarks I posted with those two processors, but even if so redirect
attention from the i5-4xxx to the i7-4xxx, and you're into much better
passmark scores and the hyperthreading you want.