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Re: Quake, WOW!

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From: sger... Steven Gershenfeld
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:00
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In article <41d9ss$7...@its.hooked.net>,
Michael Caouette <caou...@hooked.net> wrote:
>In article <41acnk$d...@eldborg.rhi.hi.is>,
>   hor...@rhi.hi.is (Hordur Kvaran) wrote:
>>In <418l3n$1...@news.acns.nwu.edu> sger...@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Steven 
>Gershenfeld) writes:
>>
>>>Dark Forces:  3D engine and about 4 degrees of freedom for your character.
>>>Descent:  3D engine and 6 degrees of freedom for your character.
>>>Doom, Doom2:  2.5D engine and 3 degrees of freedom for your character.
>>>Heretic:  2.5D engine and 3-4 degrees of freedom for your character.
>>
>>>2.5D engine means simulated z-axis. 
>>
>>I don't think those degrees of freedom are correct.  If you say 2.5D means a
>>simulated z-axis Doom only has 2 DOF.  DF has 4 DOF (the fourth being 
>>rotation of head on one axis).

Six degrees of freedom:
Movement in three directions (X,Y,Z) are 3
Rotation along any of the three axes are another 3.

In Doom and Doom2, you can move forward and backward (1), sideways (1),
and turn around along the z-axis (1).  Adds up to 3.
QED.
:-)

>>To take this thread back to Quake the guys at id have stated 6 DOF and they 
>>better deliver.
>>
I agree (if that is what they promised).  Although I don't see the use
of rotating along the x axis too much.

>>Hordur Kvaran
>>hor...@rhi.hi.is
>>*****************************************************
>>This tag line conTains exactly threee errors.
>>*****************************************************
>>
>>>Steven
>>
>>
>>
>If DF was only 4 DOF, then why do you have to duck in some areas and jump over 
>others?

Dark Forces:
movement in three directions (limited to jumping and crouching in z-axis):  3.
turning around along z-axis: 1.

I said "about 4" because you can also claim that looking up and down
is another one, but some people have said that it is not so.

So at least 4, and POSSIBLY 5, depending on how liberal you are with
your definition.  Crouching and Jumping are incorporated into one DOF.

Steven

>
>Mike Caouette
>caou...@hooked.net
>mi...@mysoftware.com
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From: sger...@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Steven Gershenfeld)
Subject: Re: Quake, WOW!
Date: 1995/08/24
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