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cpts...@Cyberquest.com (Capt Stern) wrote:
>
> In article <D7DAJ...@caprica.com> jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel) writes:
> >From: jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel)
> >Subject: Re: Win95 and games: good news...
> >Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 04:16:25 GMT
> 
> >Joshua Cyr (jm...@christa.unh.edu) wrote:
> 
> >: I was told (by a good source) that even when you reboot to DOS, there is 
> >: still the windows Kernel in the background.  Essentially, Windows 95 is an 
> >: operating system with something that looks like our old Dos... but it 
> >: isn't our old DOS.  By the way, I have been using Win 95 for a few months 
> >: now, and have been able to run everything just fine.  I am using (now get 
> >: this)
> 
> >: 486SX25, with 8MB Ram, sigh... it runs just as fast as windows runs, but 
> >: the graphic routines are much much faster.  I play Herritic in a Win 95 
> >: Dos window, with no slowdown, or problems at all.  Everything is so easy 
> >: to configure, I can't help but to love it.  A big improvement for game 
> >: fans.  I haven't used OS/2, so I cant make a comparison though.
> 
> >To see is to believe, add the 'C:\' to the front of your PATH in the 
> >autoexec.bat and drop a file called 'WIN.BAT' into C:\ and make the file 
> >contain:
> 
> >echo No Windows for You!!
> 
> >(Only one line).
> 
> >Then tool around to your heart's content in DOS.  Or (simpler) choose
> >'Shutdown' and choose 'Restart computer in DOS mode?'.  Now watch for the
> >restart, you won't see it.  What you will see is Windows exiting and
> >running the REST of the autoexec.bat to load any extra device drivers it
> >needs under DOS. 
> 
> >Here is what happens:
> 
> >1. Cold boot, BIOS check
> >2. Boot DOS
> >3. DOS loads Windows
> >4. Windows uses its own device drivers if available, if not, you have to 
> >preload them in the config.sys or autoexec.bat so they load when DOS loads.
> >4A. Restart in DOS mode, run the DOS version of the device drivers that 
> >Windows was using.
> 
> >To illustrate, I have a PAS 16 with a SCSI Teac CD50 CDROM.  To use it 
> >with Win'95, I don't have to load TSLCDR.SYS or MSCDEX.EXE, Windows has 
> >native device drivers (which mean they are likely 32-bit).  To use it 
> >under DOS, I have to load the drivers just like I would in MSDOS 6.2.
> 
> >My girlfriend has an old Sony-Bus single speed CDROM and a PAS 16 (SCSI 
> >not used).  To use it with Win'95, I had to load the Sony driver and 
> >MSCDEX.EXE to get them to be used under Win'95.  Great thing is that 
> >using the DOS support, you still have Windows support, just like Win 3.1.
> 
> >The moral is, when you're not running Win'95, you're running Win'95 DOS 
> >and DOS is still DOS...  
> 
> >
> Well the DOS that is installed via WIN95 seemed pretty crippled.  And not all 
> games work with it.
> For example: MPS/Master of Magic & Master of Orion both failed to run with 
> sound enabled.  The "new" dos is missing even basic features such as DELTREE,
> XCOPY, etc.
> I ran build 445 WIN95 for about 4 days, and then re-installed WFW 3.11 & PC 
> DOS 7.0.  More compatible, and that is the issue not how cool the OS looks, or 
> how cool it runs.  Since an OS that runs really nice but won't run your 
> software is just another way of describing the MAC & AMIGA's.
> 

Odd, I ran Masters of Magic just fine under Win 95.  I just set everything to AUTO and
it runs just as fast as dos.  I have the pre-release final beta that I
ordered from Microsoft.  I believe it is build 347.  I don't know what
you mean about dos "missing" basic features since I just used xcopy before and 
use deltree a lot.  Although I prefer Windows explorer now.