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In article <cptstern.3...@Cyberquest.com>,
Capt Stern <cpts...@Cyberquest.com> wrote:
>In article <D7DAJ...@caprica.com> jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel) writes:
>>From: jlu...@caprica.com (James Lummel)
>>Subject: Re: Win95 and games: good news...
>>Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 04:16:25 GMT
>
>>Joshua Cyr (jm...@christa.unh.edu) wrote:
>
>>: I was told (by a good source) that even when you reboot to DOS, there is 
>>: still the windows Kernel in the background.  Essentially, Windows 95 is an 
>>: operating system with something that looks like our old Dos... but it 
>>: isn't our old DOS.  By the way, I have been using Win 95 for a few months 
>>: now, and have been able to run everything just fine.  I am using (now get 
>>: this)
>
>>: 486SX25, with 8MB Ram, sigh... it runs just as fast as windows runs, but 
>>: the graphic routines are much much faster.  I play Herritic in a Win 95 
>>: Dos window, with no slowdown, or problems at all.  Everything is so easy 
>>: to configure, I can't help but to love it.  A big improvement for game 
>>: fans.  I haven't used OS/2, so I cant make a comparison though.
>
>>To see is to believe, add the 'C:\' to the front of your PATH in the 
>>autoexec.bat and drop a file called 'WIN.BAT' into C:\ and make the file 
>>contain:
>
>>echo No Windows for You!!
>
>>(Only one line).
>
>>Then tool around to your heart's content in DOS.  Or (simpler) choose
>>'Shutdown' and choose 'Restart computer in DOS mode?'.  Now watch for the
>>restart, you won't see it.  What you will see is Windows exiting and
>>running the REST of the autoexec.bat to load any extra device drivers it
>>needs under DOS. 
>
>>Here is what happens:
>
>>1. Cold boot, BIOS check
>>2. Boot DOS
>>3. DOS loads Windows
>>4. Windows uses its own device drivers if available, if not, you have to 
>>preload them in the config.sys or autoexec.bat so they load when DOS loads.
>>4A. Restart in DOS mode, run the DOS version of the device drivers that 
>>Windows was using.
>
>>To illustrate, I have a PAS 16 with a SCSI Teac CD50 CDROM.  To use it 
>>with Win'95, I don't have to load TSLCDR.SYS or MSCDEX.EXE, Windows has 
>>native device drivers (which mean they are likely 32-bit).  To use it 
>>under DOS, I have to load the drivers just like I would in MSDOS 6.2.
>
>>My girlfriend has an old Sony-Bus single speed CDROM and a PAS 16 (SCSI 
>>not used).  To use it with Win'95, I had to load the Sony driver and 
>>MSCDEX.EXE to get them to be used under Win'95.  Great thing is that 
>>using the DOS support, you still have Windows support, just like Win 3.1.
>
>>The moral is, when you're not running Win'95, you're running Win'95 DOS 
>>and DOS is still DOS...  
>

Well, there is always the option of booting you old operating system.
Which just happens to be dos 6.2   Booting with command prompt actually
boots ms-dos 7.0 (beta).  Just use the 'ver' and it will say MS-Dos 6.2,
MS-Dos 7.0 or Windows 4.00.450 (or whatever build you are using).

>>
>Well the DOS that is installed via WIN95 seemed pretty crippled.  And not all 
>games work with it.
>For example: MPS/Master of Magic & Master of Orion both failed to run with 
>sound enabled.  The "new" dos is missing even basic features such as DELTREE,
>XCOPY, etc.
>I ran build 445 WIN95 for about 4 days, and then re-installed WFW 3.11 & PC 
>DOS 7.0.  More compatible, and that is the issue not how cool the OS looks, or 
>how cool it runs.  Since an OS that runs really nice but won't run your 
>software is just another way of describing the MAC & AMIGA's.
>

That is because of your path.  deltree, xcopt and all my old dos
commands run under '95, except for the specialized Dos 6's commands.
Like memmaker, defrag, and a few other utilities.  Those are useable
under Windows if you did a full install.  Undelete does not work, unless
you boot ms-dos 6.x.  

MOM ran fine with '95.  Using both full and windowed screen.  Sound runs
fine also.  Don't know what you did, but almost every game I have tried
runs under '95, including Dark Forces, BioForge, X-Com2, and Warcraft.
Everything runs, sound, graphics, in the foreground, in the
backgroud....  Even downloading 14.4 in the background via Z-modem or
SLIP/PPP without any CRCs errors.  This is on a plain old ordinary
486/66 CPU.  Nothing fancy, like a high end pentium..  Networked and
all.

-Jay