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wsmithjr001@yahoo.com (Warren) wrote:
>"Lawrence" <Dontthrowspam@me.com> wrote in message news:<cf8eir$5lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
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>"Lawrence" <Dontthrowspam@me.com> wrote in message news:<cf8eir$5lh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>> Been a few more posts than usual of late. And since I often view but hardly
>> post I guess that means that some of you lot often do the same.
>> 
>> I have played a few of the xcom games and but my personal favourites are UFO
>> EU and TFTD. the others I have tried, I like less although I commend the
>> attempt to enhance the format.
>
>I won't try to give them ratings.
>
>UFO - The original classic.  Who doesn't love it?  Well, OK, but we
>won't mention *those* people. :)
>
>TFTD - I actually liked this more.  Sure, it was UFO with a different
>skin, but I thought the new skin was really cool.  And I really liked
>the idea of weapons that could only be used under water.  And the HTH
>weapons changed the whole nature of the combat.  And the larger
>variety of missions including 2-stage missions ... I could go on.  The
>game was brutal, and searching out the last alien hiding on the
>passenger ship wasn't much fun, but I'd have to pick this one just
>slightly over UFO.
>
>Apocalypse - Tried it the "real" way ... turn based ... it was
>unbearable.  The levels were too large ... TFTD sometimes suffered
>from this but with Apoc it was just too much.  Made a half-hearted
>attempt to play real time but just didn't like it at all.  Then a long
>time later, I made a serious effort to play this via real time, and lo
>and behold, I "got" it.  Had a lot of fun.  Totally different feel
>from the others but just as good in it's own right.

The main problem with Apocalypse is that it was still tile based. So you
had to wait for an agent to finish crawling into a new tile before you
could make him do anything else.

>Interceptor - Bought it, never played it.
>
>Enforcer - Vaguely heard about it, didn't care and never bought it. 
>Still don't care.
>
>Aftermath - I'm not really sure how I feel about this one.  It's not
>all bad, but I just don't get as excited about it as the earlier
>games.  Maybe it's because of the lack of base building and economics.
> I know it was intentional, but it left a whole lot out of what X-Com
>was all about for me.  I really liked some of the stuff ... more
>skills, training, other mission objectives, etc.  There is a lot to
>like about it, but in the end, it just seemed lacking.  Never did make
>it to the part where the difficulty jumps exponentially, I don't
>think.

The sequel will surely be much better. Julian Gollop's first turn based
strategy games didn't have the base building stuff either.

>It's not X-Com, but ... Jagged Alliance 2 is the best thing since
>X-Com.  The dual time system with real time until enemy contact at
>which it becomes turn-based, is the best ever IMO.  I'd kill for any
>of the earlier X-Com games to be re-written to use this combat engine.

The source code has been released so maybe someone will do just that.

>There's my $.05.

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