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"Christopher Reid" <CReid1701@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:16:29 GMT, "Shot" <Shot97@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> >"Kevin Scholl" <kscholl@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I don't see how there's even a case.  The name of the game is Wing
> Commander Secret Ops.  Play the game.  There's no "Prophecy: Secret
> Ops," it's just Secret Ops.  Also, play the game.  You don't need
> Prophecy to play, so it's not an addon.  There's just no case as to
> whether it's a separate game or not.
> What else would they call Prophecy and Secret Ops packaged together?
> Prophecy Gold is as good a name as any.

Add-on: Denotes a commercial package that enhances an existing game
(additional levels, race tracks, etc.) or requires an existing game to run
(Quake "total conversions", etc.). Part of the Other Attributes category

That Moby Games definition for an add on. Moby games is a site that has
cataloged pretty much every game ever made. It includes things like reviews
as well as pictures of the actual box. You are partly right, an add on CAN
require an existing game... but it doesn't have to. It can just enhance a
game, and it can most definitely NOT require an existing game. I can think
of add on's that didnt require the game to play. Interstate 76's Nitro Pack
said right on the label it was an add on but it DID NOT require you to have
the original game. It was installed and played right from the cd you bought.
I just installed the game without Interstate 76 on my hard drive to test it
out and I am right. Also Interstate Nitro Riders. It is called a "stand
alone add on" at moby.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,2287/

Here is another one right from Mobys web site, a game that was marketed as
"stand alone" but they dont seem to think it was. This is relevant just to
show you that it is not a "case closed" thing. There IS debate, and your
attitude of how can anyone possibly believe this is an add on is one cocky
stupid attitude.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,684/
Thats "Oh No More Lemmings". Marketed as a stand alone game... but it wasn'
t....
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,1822/
And theres Wing Commander: Secret Ops itself. It "Continues the story of
Wing Commander Prophecy". "Secret Ops uses essentially the same engine as
Prophecy. You can fly upgraded versions of the Prophecy fighters equipped
with some new weapons. The story is no longer told with videos but with cut
scenes using the game engine. "
Now granted this description can sort of help your case considering they
dont out and out say "Although marketed as a stand alone product, its still
an add on". But the language sure speaks it. Yull also notice that for some
games like Wing Commander Prophecy itself there are alternate tittles for
them. Wing Commander Prophecies alternate title is "Wing Commander 5".
http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,486/
Wing Commander: Secret Ops has no such alternate title. And here is the last
straw http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,2659/
Right there. For Wing Commander Prophecy Gold. Quote "This "gold" package
contains Wing Commander Prophecy and the "Secret Ops" expansion pack. The
Secret Ops pack was previously only available as downloadable missions off
of the 'Web."

It is time that you quit this stupid cocky "I am right and there is no
debate about it" attitude of yours. THERE IS MOST DEFINITELY DEBATE! IT IS
OUT THERE!!! People call that game an expansion pack. The only thing that is
certain is that there IS doubt. It is not a "I cant believe people think
this". I can believe that you think its a stand alone game, but how dare you
not see my point. How dare you. There is debate, thank you, and goodnight!