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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:42:03 -0500, Mike Bruner
<bru...@delaware.infi.net> wrote:

>Christopher Reid wrote:

>> >It is entirely possible that like the Dragon those few things worth
>> >expanding on were moved to other things; in the Dragon's case it's likely
>> >they took some of the developments and used them for designing fighters like
>> >the Vampire, and in the case of the Flashpack... who knows? Might be part of
>> >how they got the Plasma Gun to pierce shields,
>>
>>    Erm, the Flash-Pak and Plasma Gun's ability to pierce shields have
>> what in common now? :)
>
>The Flash Pack obviously could go through shields to do its effect; who knows?
>I'm not claiming it HAS to be related, I'm just saying it could be possible for
>all we know. Weapons research works in mysterious ways...

   Weapons Research into guns that penetrate phase shields has
progressed back and forth wonderfully for decades without Flash-Paks
however. :)

>> >or new torpedo design, or
>> >some other thing.
>>
>>    Woohoo, now we can make torps 1/4th the strength of war-era torps!
>
>Chris, you are missing the point. I am saying they could have taken the
>technology of the Flash Pack and used what was learned creating it to make the
>more powerful torpedoes that exist in WCP.

   And you're missing the point. :) The most powerful torpedoes that
exist in WCP are a fraction of the strength that Confed has the
technology to produce.  It's more likely that that technology went to
help the Flash-Pak (not that that's likely in general) than the other
way around.

> Remember, there were several years
>between the Black Lance and the Bugs. It wouldn't be a damn direct "using Flash
>Packs during WCP" like you seem to think I'm saying. I'm just saying that I think
>"Confed doesn't use any of the Black Lance stuff because of its bad rep" (well,
>except for GenSelect, of course) would be utterly stupid given the major
>technology advantage it had AT THE TIME OF WC4; however, I can easily see them
>taking the research that went into things like the Dragon and Flash Pack and
>using it to generate such things as the Vampire and other WCP ships and weapons
>that we see after the WC4 era. With that logic, Confed not using the Black Lance
>stuff wouldn't be just morality over intelligence, it'd be "Oh, we got everything
>useful out of that stuff and used it to make new models that exceed it now
>anyway". So the Vampire/Panther/etc. might be a technological descendent of the
>Dragon just as the Dragon was a descendent of the Excalibur. You follow me now?

   I know that's what you've been trying to say all along, I'm just
saying that because the Flash-Pak and Torpedoes are both locked and
launched like a missile doesn't mean that they have anything else in
common whatsoever.

>> > If memory serves, didn't the tracking disk we deployed for
>> >the Midway's super Bug Gun in WCP look like a Flashpack?
>>
>>    So.. that means the Flash-Pak was a precursor to the targeting discs
>> for the sole reason that they were both disc-shaped?
>
>Or maybe they both are variants of a similar weapon; 

   But the targeting disc isn't a weapon at all.  Similar to what I said
above, the biggest similarity we see between them is that they're disc
shaped.  And I hardly think Confed needs to reverse engineer Black Lance
weaponry to design a metal disc.

>again, I'm just saying we
>don't have anything that says the two HAVE to be unrelated, so I offer it as an
>possible example why we don't see any Black Lance stuff by WCP (i.e. here is one
>thing it MIGHT have evolved to instead).

Chris Reid                                            Wing Commander CIC
Chri...@wcnews.com                               http://www.wcnews.com