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On Mon, 29 May 2017 18:40:45 -0700 (PDT), Shinnokxz
<shin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Gotta say, can't see what the complaints are with revisiting old WoW. I heard many claim "It's the nostalgia clouding memories- no one REALLY wants to go back and play through that!"
>
>Well, I returned to my Warrior roots and rolled a NE (Was horde back in the day) and have been delighted just dinging level 50. If anything would be a deterring factor, it would be leveling a dredge Warrior on a vanilla server. 
>
>Recently, I had a great group that rummaged for all the Mauradon quests for an hour, met up, and cleaned the place from head to toe (took about 3 hours). Seeing the beauty of that instance and recalling how difficult it could be if people weren't playing their best really brought it all back.

I had a fantastic time on Nostalrius last year - it's not *only*
nostalgia, or I wouldn't have lasted the entire 6 month lifespan of
the PVE server there. The main thing for me is that levelling felt
meaningful - certainly, many people hate it but I'm not among the
"rush to endgame asap" brigade - I LOVE exploring the world,
travelling all over on those gigantic chains that sent you everywhere.
What post-Cata quest chain sticks in the mind like the Missing
Diplomat or the Alliance Onyxia chain?

I don't play vanilla at present; obviously Nost was shut down, I
levelled on Magic but that never really took off, once Legion came out
my friends and I all moved on. I did copy my Nost account to Elysium
in the short period that was available, but the some from my guild
couldn't get their copies working, some had their accounts hacked,
plus I'd kinda lost faith in private servers so I'm on Legion and
GuildWars 2 now instead. Probably my account's been hacked too by now
lol, been months since I checked :-P

But if Blizzard ever offer official classic servers I will absolutely
be there. Give me a permanent official server where my characters will
be safe, where all the scripting is done right (private servers are a
pretty good replica but I've got too good a memory of the old quests,
so it grates a bit where it isn't the same!), and I'd definitely be
happy to pay for it. If only Blizzard would decide it's a worthwhile
project...

Den 30-05-2017 kl. 18:25 skrev Catriona R:

> But if Blizzard ever offer official classic servers I will absolutely
> be there.

I cancelled my sub back in march as 7.2 was another grind so I'm not 
updated.  Any rumors about official vanilla servers?

-- 
Peter T.

On Tue, 30 May 2017 20:03:25 +0200, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 30-05-2017 kl. 18:25 skrev Catriona R:
>
>> But if Blizzard ever offer official classic servers I will absolutely
>> be there.
>
>I cancelled my sub back in march as 7.2 was another grind so I'm not 
>updated.  Any rumors about official vanilla servers?

Nothing, been a deafening silence ever since the  Nostalrius
explosion. I'm thinking they're just hoping by ignoring it people will
stop asking, so I don't really have much hopeof it now, but hey, maybe
someday. Nostalrius proved there's a market for it - whether that
market is big enough to be worth their while is another question.

And yeah you're not missing a lot with 7.2 - Broken Shore is a
disappointment after how amazing Suramar 7.1 was, oh well it gives me
time to catch up a bit (having missed several months and now juggling
2 games), I'm aiming to actually get my first Gul'Dan kill tomorrow's
reset... (yes, on LFR, that's how far behind I am lol). In fairness
7.2 isn't terrible, it certainly beats 6.1 (eh, not hard!), but it's a
bit lacking in storyline. 

However I've got plenty other stuff to do anyway, including pet/mount
runs in old content (the 7.1 pets in Northrend raids are driving me
mad, three of them just refuse to drop, I actually got Mimiron's Head
before any of them for goodness sake; not that I'm complaining there
lol ;-)), trying to complete my Nighthold LFR transmog set (very
reminiscent of priest tier 1 in colours), emissaries and world quests
in general for multiple different things... plenty to do in my reduced
playing time. Suspect I'd be bored if I wasn't also playing Guild Wars
2 though, luckily that game's still in the "new stuff!" phase for me,
and I'm deliberately taking my time working through it, thoroughly
exploring each zone before I move on.

Fun comparing the two games, both have different strengths and
weaknesses, but the one thing GW2 does that WoW doesn't is massive
open world events; you help NPCs with various stuff in a chain of
events, which get bigger and tougher, till it leads up to killing big
bosses on a par with WoW's world bosses. Tons of loot and exp along
the way and seeing a huugge group of people working together is fun,
I'd enjoy seeing that kinda thing in WoW. They're got mob scaling
right in that game too - everyone shares a tag (rather than only 5 in
WoW) but the more people in an area the more mobs spawn in events and
the tougher they are, so if you get a massive zerg running around
together you get really tough mobs that drop good loot, while if
there's hardly anyone around, it's still possible to complete most
events for the event rewards.

In message <ep5ko1...@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 May 2017 18:40:45 -0700 (PDT), Shinnokxz
> <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Gotta say, can't see what the complaints are with revisiting old WoW.
>>I heard many claim "It's the nostalgia clouding memories- no one
>>REALLY wants to go back and play through that!"

The complain is that people are pirating Blizzard's software, stealing
their IP, and potentially decreasing subscriber numbers for the actual
game.

> But if Blizzard ever offer official classic servers I will absolutely
> be there.

I doubt they will. It's far too much effort for far too little returns.

And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
server downtime.

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On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 00:12:21 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <ep5ko1...@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 May 2017 18:40:45 -0700 (PDT), Shinnokxz
>> <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Gotta say, can't see what the complaints are with revisiting old WoW.
>>>I heard many claim "It's the nostalgia clouding memories- no one
>>>REALLY wants to go back and play through that!"
>
>The complain is that people are pirating Blizzard's software, stealing
>their IP, and potentially decreasing subscriber numbers for the actual
>game.

*That* complaint is a partially valid one, and why I always maintained
both my live subs while I was playing vanilla last year (and one of
the reasons I'm no longer playing it). I've always felt it's not
morally "pirating" if it cannot be legally played though; I *want* to
give Blizzard my money for it, but they don't seem to want it...

However many people certainly express it in the way Shinnokxz said,
implying that just because they personally don't want to play vanilla,
nobody else could possibly want it, which is just plain wrong IMO!
Might be only a minority of us (almost certainly is tbh), but it's a
sizeable minority!

>> But if Blizzard ever offer official classic servers I will absolutely
>> be there.
>
>I doubt they will. It's far too much effort for far too little returns.

Sadly I suspect you're right, although I still hope it might happen
anyway. Although the returns may not be that low, 15k online
simultaneously at EU peak times when I was playing, on only one (pair
of) servers, continuing to similar numbers at US peak times, and a
third peak at Chinese peak... got to be 30-40k plus per day there
(probably a low guesstimate, given many people do not have time to
play many hours every day), and that on a server which the vast
majority of the potential market will have never heard of, it only got
well known when it was shut down. 

I do think official servers promoted by Blizzard would gain higher
numbers, even when you remove those who aren't keen enough to pay for
it. No, it won't be much compared with live WoW, but the numbers might
well be pretty decent in the kinda terms any other MMO deals in...

>And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
>and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
>server downtime.

In fairness much of that was more down to server hardware unable to
handle the load than bugs; the server downtime free days stopped at
pretty much the same time the servers were all upgraded hehe. And it'd
be easy enough to tell people to cope with the old bugs; they wanted
vanilla experience, they got it lol - it'll be a lot less buggy than
private servers anyway...

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 02:12:26 +0100, Catriona R
<catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

>
>On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 00:12:21 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
><g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>In message <ep5ko1...@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 29 May 2017 18:40:45 -0700 (PDT), Shinnokxz
>>> <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Gotta say, can't see what the complaints are with revisiting old WoW.
>>>>I heard many claim "It's the nostalgia clouding memories- no one
>>>>REALLY wants to go back and play through that!"
>>
>>The complain is that people are pirating Blizzard's software, stealing
>>their IP, and potentially decreasing subscriber numbers for the actual
>>game.
>
>*That* complaint is a partially valid one, and why I always maintained
>both my live subs while I was playing vanilla last year (and one of
>the reasons I'm no longer playing it). I've always felt it's not
>morally "pirating" if it cannot be legally played though; I *want* to
>give Blizzard my money for it, but they don't seem to want it...
>
>However many people certainly express it in the way Shinnokxz said,
>implying that just because they personally don't want to play vanilla,
>nobody else could possibly want it, which is just plain wrong IMO!
>Might be only a minority of us (almost certainly is tbh), but it's a
>sizeable minority!
>
>>> But if Blizzard ever offer official classic servers I will absolutely
>>> be there.
>>
>>I doubt they will. It's far too much effort for far too little returns.
>
>Sadly I suspect you're right, although I still hope it might happen
>anyway. Although the returns may not be that low, 15k online
>simultaneously at EU peak times when I was playing, on only one (pair
>of) servers, continuing to similar numbers at US peak times, and a
>third peak at Chinese peak... got to be 30-40k plus per day there
>(probably a low guesstimate, given many people do not have time to
>play many hours every day), and that on a server which the vast
>majority of the potential market will have never heard of, it only got
>well known when it was shut down. 
>
>I do think official servers promoted by Blizzard would gain higher
>numbers, even when you remove those who aren't keen enough to pay for
>it. No, it won't be much compared with live WoW, but the numbers might
>well be pretty decent in the kinda terms any other MMO deals in...
>
>>And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
>>and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
>>server downtime.
>
>In fairness much of that was more down to server hardware unable to
>handle the load than bugs; the server downtime free days stopped at
>pretty much the same time the servers were all upgraded hehe. And it'd
>be easy enough to tell people to cope with the old bugs; they wanted
>vanilla experience, they got it lol - it'll be a lot less buggy than
>private servers anyway...

I've never played vanilla, having started with MoP, but I would like
to explore pre cataclysm Azshara.  The Barrens, before the were split.
Thousand Needles before it was flooded, etc.  (Or, for that mater, pre
Sha Pandaria.  What's with destroying the world before we've barely
started exploring it, anyway?)
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:06:16 -0700, Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com>
wrote:

>I've never played vanilla, having started with MoP, but I would like
>to explore pre cataclysm Azshara.  The Barrens, before the were split.
>Thousand Needles before it was flooded, etc.  (Or, for that mater, pre
>Sha Pandaria.  What's with destroying the world before we've barely
>started exploring it, anyway?)

You can see a bit of old Azshara when you do the Huln Highmountain
quests (and the Val'Sharah world quest that sends you there too) -
obviously it's missing the original mobs and quests (there were hardly
any quests there anyway) but the actual landscape is the pre-Cata one
:-) Also when the pvp brawl Southshore vs Tarren Mill is up, you get
original Hillsbrad Foothills with non-wrecked Southshore there (the
dungeon Old Hillsbrad is closer to the original than the present day,
too). There's not a lot else you can experience ingame though, other
than Theramore and Blasted Lands where you can talk to a nearby bronze
dragon to phase back to the old versions.

As to the rest, only answer is private servers at present, or various
old videos and photos, not the same as experiencing it yourself! And I
do wish they'd allowed a way to phase Vale of Eternal Blossoms rather
than just having it wrecked for everybody, the pre-Garrosh version was
much nicer, and if they'd thought to phase it, we could've had a
healing process in a patch to fill the gap after Siege of Orgrimmar.

Still, I guess the current way of totally removing old content is less
jarring than what Guild Wars 2 has, where the main city was destroyed
and rebuilt completely differently during a major storyline that's no
longer playable, so newer players like me have only ever known the new
version - BUT we get sent to an instance of the *old* version of the
city for various story quests, which is incredibly confusing when
suddenly everything looks completely different!

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:

> And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
> and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
> server downtime.

I subbed MoP -> WoD for about 3 months and got more free days than I ever remember on my Vanilla subscription. Nothing has changed there

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:

> The complain is that people are pirating Blizzard's software, stealing
> their IP, and potentially decreasing subscriber numbers for the actual
> game.

Since it's a non-profit endeavor, what makes WoW so special over the decades of AAA games that constantly get pirated on the PC? The laughable DRMs that never do anything except inconvenience paying customers? The problem with the whole matter is that Blizz geeks think the software belongs on a tier above all else, so reasoning be damned- the Blizz/activision value has been compromised in their minds.

WoW's waning subscriber base is authoritatively of Blizzard's own doing, and in a lot of ways, these Vanilla servers are actually serving purpose for Blizzard by organizing longtime fans into remembering and valuing the Warcraft brand they once loved- looking past the current iterations of garbage DLC virtual card games and repeatedly botched expansion packs to a nearly 14 year platform.

The truth to the matter is that even if Blizzard goes after Elysium (which it being amongst the biggest, but there are many many  out there), this will never end for them. I think that's why their crusade went so quiet after the uproar of Nostalrius.

I believe that if Lewis allowed himself a week to assimilate with one of these Vanilla servers, he would see how polished a lot of things are about it and that the premise is not as vagrant as the pious Blizzard worshippers make it out to be.

-Handlotion [Level 60 Night Elf Warrior, getting feared into a group of Necromancers by a bat patrol in Stratholme]

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-6, Catriona R wrote:

> You can see a bit of old Azshara when you do the Huln Highmountain
> quests (and the Val'Sharah world quest that sends you there too) -
> obviously it's missing the original mobs and quests (there were hardly
> any quests there anyway) 

TBH, after have spent some time doing an Azuregos group a few weeks back, I'd almost attest that Azshara is probably better on a video. Though the place is gorgeous, especially out towards the eastern sea, boy is it just a bloomin nightmare to navigate. It's like the zone design team got together and took mushrooms, and the result concept was no story, no flow, but just hours and hours of radical scenery and geography that they forgot to make fun to move around in.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:30:37 -0700 (PDT), Shinnokxz
<shin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 8:07:55 AM UTC-6, Catriona R wrote:
>
>> You can see a bit of old Azshara when you do the Huln Highmountain
>> quests (and the Val'Sharah world quest that sends you there too) -
>> obviously it's missing the original mobs and quests (there were hardly
>> any quests there anyway) 
>
>TBH, after have spent some time doing an Azuregos group a few weeks back, I'd almost attest that Azshara is probably better on a video. Though the place is gorgeous, especially out towards the eastern sea, boy is it just a bloomin nightmare to navigate. It's like the zone design team got together and took mushrooms, and the result concept was no story, no flow, but just hours and hours of radical scenery and geography that they forgot to make fun to move around in.

Haha, so so true. And soo many elites to try and dodge that hit like
trucks, too - on Nost, at 60 in dungeon blues, if I blew ALL my cds
(including at least one healing pot/whipper root tuber) I could kill
one giant... if it didn't crit me lol. At least being a rogue I had
vanish, anyone else had a world of pain getting past all those mobs if
they happened to aggro one... beautiful zone but not very friendly!

In message <5634499e-cc75-4c10...@googlegroups.com> Shinnokxz <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:

>> And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
>> and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
>> server downtime.

> I subbed MoP -> WoD for about 3 months and got more free days than I ever remember on my Vanilla subscription. Nothing has changed there

What in the world are you talking about? It's been years since server
downtime led to free days being added to the account.


-- 
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In message <ba50a8a9-638d-4ea7...@googlegroups.com> Shinnokxz <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:

>> The complain is that people are pirating Blizzard's software, stealing
>> their IP, and potentially decreasing subscriber numbers for the actual
>> game.

> I believe that if Lewis allowed himself a week to assimilate with one
> of these Vanilla servers, he would see how polished a lot of things
> are about it and that the premise is not as vagrant as the pious
> Blizzard worshippers make it out to be.

Thanks. I remember vanilla very well and I have no interest in going
back to it. If TBC hadn't come along when it did I would have quit WoW.

-- 
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:39:26 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <5634499e-cc75-4c10...@googlegroups.com> Shinnokxz <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:
>
>>> And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
>>> and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
>>> server downtime.
>
>> I subbed MoP -> WoD for about 3 months and got more free days than I ever remember on my Vanilla subscription. Nothing has changed there
>
>What in the world are you talking about? It's been years since server
>downtime led to free days being added to the account.

I know I got some at WoD launch as it was just unplayable for the
first week,enormous lag garrison instances broken so you couldn't
progress questchains, 6 hour queues to even log in at all... yeah.
That was worth 5 days according to my sub history (got curious so
looked it up), first free days since 2009, they've done a pretty
decent job over the years.

In message <ero4i3...@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:39:26 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>In message <5634499e-cc75-4c10...@googlegroups.com> Shinnokxz <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:
>>
>>>> And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
>>>> and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
>>>> server downtime.
>>
>>> I subbed MoP -> WoD for about 3 months and got more free days than I ever remember on my Vanilla subscription. Nothing has changed there
>>
>>What in the world are you talking about? It's been years since server
>>downtime led to free days being added to the account.

> I know I got some at WoD launch as it was just unplayable for the
> first week,enormous lag garrison instances broken so you couldn't
> progress questchains, 6 hour queues to even log in at all... yeah.

I saw nothing like that. I think there were some bugged quests, but no
issues with garrisons and no issues with instances other than the
occasional times there were too many instances to create a new one.

I *might* have had a long queue one day when Battle.net and login
servers came up but the world servers were not. That sound familiar, but
it wasn't anything like 6 hours.

> That was worth 5 days according to my sub history (got curious so
> looked it up), first free days since 2009, they've done a pretty
> decent job over the years.

Just checked. The last time I got play-time credit was 31 March 2010.

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On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 15:41:06 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <ero4i3...@mid.individual.net> Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 15:39:26 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
>> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>>In message <5634499e-cc75-4c10...@googlegroups.com> Shinnokxz <shin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:16:06 PM UTC-6, Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And vanilla was a bug-ridden mess. I looked back at my account history
>>>>> and during Vanilla I got over 30 days of free play time because of
>>>>> server downtime.
>>>
>>>> I subbed MoP -> WoD for about 3 months and got more free days than I ever remember on my Vanilla subscription. Nothing has changed there
>>>
>>>What in the world are you talking about? It's been years since server
>>>downtime led to free days being added to the account.
>
>> I know I got some at WoD launch as it was just unplayable for the
>> first week,enormous lag garrison instances broken so you couldn't
>> progress questchains, 6 hour queues to even log in at all... yeah.
>
>I saw nothing like that. I think there were some bugged quests, but no
>issues with garrisons and no issues with instances other than the
>occasional times there were too many instances to create a new one.

I think you're in the US, right? Might've been more issues in Europe,
or else it was just specific servers, and as mine was a VERY high pop
server it got hit harder. It certainly was very bad for my realm, some
days my bf couldn't play at all as by the time he got through the
queue he had to go to bed - and this when I'd turned his pc on 2 hours
before he was due to get home from work to get him in the queue good
and early. 

The one positive to that experience was Blizz rapidly adding the
sharding tech to let more people be logged in at a time without adding
more lag, which I'm delighted with; my realm had had massive login
queues right from Cata launch, only getting worse with time (as for
some reason it never occurred to anyone to put a halt on server
transfers into a server that regularly had 2 hour queues), and
enormous lag and overcrowding issues in any new content, all cured
since they split us into multiple phases where it gets too busy :-) 

>I *might* have had a long queue one day when Battle.net and login
>servers came up but the world servers were not. That sound familiar, but
>it wasn't anything like 6 hours.
>
>> That was worth 5 days according to my sub history (got curious so
>> looked it up), first free days since 2009, they've done a pretty
>> decent job over the years.
>
>Just checked. The last time I got play-time credit was 31 March 2010.

Cool, it's great to see how reliable they've got it these days that
it's so rarely needed, the WoD launch problems really stood out to me
as it'd been so long since anything like that happened, usually get a
bit of lag and the odd server hiccup at expansion launch, but nothing
that bad. By contrast Legion shocked me in that it had NO problems at
all the first few days, the sharding tech really did do its work as we
never had the huge pile of people stuck on bottleneck quests, no
lagginess... smoothest expansion launch I've known.

On 2/07/2017 1:11 AM, Lewis wrote:

> 
> I saw nothing like that. I think there were some bugged quests, but no
> issues with garrisons and no issues with instances other than the
> occasional times there were too many instances to create a new one.
> 
> I *might* have had a long queue one day when Battle.net and login
> servers came up but the world servers were not. That sound familiar, but
> it wasn't anything like 6 hours.
> 
>> That was worth 5 days according to my sub history (got curious so
>> looked it up), first free days since 2009, they've done a pretty
>> decent job over the years.
> 
> Just checked. The last time I got play-time credit was 31 March 2010.

https://s20.postimg.org/4cyaa3igd/Wo_WScrn_Shot_111414_191515edit.jpg
532 minutes queue  typical for the first week or so
Couldn't complete garrison,couldn't leave garrison at times, couldn't 
get back in to garrison if you did leave.
All fixed fairly quickly but the first week getting half a dozen chars 
through was pretty much queue time
I did get a few days at Wod start but can't check atm

start of event explains it
https://s20.postimg.org/yiwoovpd9/Wo_WScrn_Shot_111314_181746edit.jpg
'omg 2 mins to mount?'

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Den 08-07-2017 kl. 03:11 skrev | || ||| ||||| || |:

> start of event explains it
> https://s20.postimg.org/yiwoovpd9/Wo_WScrn_Shot_111314_181746edit.jpg
> 'omg 2 mins to mount?'

!!! :D

-- 
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:29:11 +0200, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 08-07-2017 kl. 03:11 skrev | || ||| ||||| || |:
>
>> start of event explains it
>> https://s20.postimg.org/yiwoovpd9/Wo_WScrn_Shot_111314_181746edit.jpg
>> 'omg 2 mins to mount?'
>
>!!! :D

I think he needs to turn off some of his identifiers.  Given the
options I'd rather see the screen than know who everyone on it is.

BTW what's a Death Knight PC doing in vanilla?
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On 2017-07-10 2:18 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:29:11 +0200, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
> wrote:
>
>> Den 08-07-2017 kl. 03:11 skrev | || ||| ||||| || |:
>>
>>> start of event explains it
>>> https://s20.postimg.org/yiwoovpd9/Wo_WScrn_Shot_111314_181746edit.jpg
>>> 'omg 2 mins to mount?'
>>
>> !!! :D
>
> I think he needs to turn off some of his identifiers.  Given the
> options I'd rather see the screen than know who everyone on it is.
>
> BTW what's a Death Knight PC doing in vanilla?

It's not from the BC launch, it's from the WoD launch. The characters 
are level 90 and the quest log (not there - or at least not like that - 
in vanilla, IIRC) shows the breadcrumb quest for WoD. :)

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:43:44 +0100, Simon Lamont
<ot...@simonlamont.co.uk> wrote:

>On 2017-07-10 2:18 AM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:29:11 +0200, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Den 08-07-2017 kl. 03:11 skrev | || ||| ||||| || |:
>>>
>>>> start of event explains it
>>>> https://s20.postimg.org/yiwoovpd9/Wo_WScrn_Shot_111314_181746edit.jpg
>>>> 'omg 2 mins to mount?'
>>>
>>> !!! :D
>>
>> I think he needs to turn off some of his identifiers.  Given the
>> options I'd rather see the screen than know who everyone on it is.
>>
>> BTW what's a Death Knight PC doing in vanilla?
>
>It's not from the BC launch, it's from the WoD launch. The characters 
>are level 90 and the quest log (not there - or at least not like that - 
>in vanilla, IIRC) shows the breadcrumb quest for WoD. :)

Thanks, there was too much crap on the screen to see where it was, but
I did see that it was a level 90 DK, but this is an Elysium vanilla
thread, thus my question.  I've done that quest tree a few times now,
but it was never that crowded.  OTOH I don't do anything on launch
day.
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