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Den 20-02-2014 16:14, Fvert skrev:
> Not sure how I missed it but I came across some information recently
> that enchants can be put on boa heritage gear yet still leaves them boa.
> It also seems in doing so the enchant scales with the level the same way
> the gear does.
>
> Am I understanding this correctly? I can put the highest Pandaria
> enchant on? I would hate to do so and lose the boa status.

Yes.  Your level 1 priest can use a heirloom staff with jade spirit on 
it.  Scaled down, of course.  You can also use shoulder enchants from 
scribers and leg enchants from tailors and LWers.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

On 21/02/2014 1:44 AM, Fvert wrote:
> Not sure how I missed it but I came across some information recently
> that enchants can be put on boa heritage gear yet still leaves them boa.
> It also seems in doing so the enchant scales with the level the same way
> the gear does.
>
> Am I understanding this correctly? I can put the highest Pandaria
> enchant on? I would hate to do so and lose the boa status.
>
> Thanks in advance.


It should warn anyway, if it doesn't and it binds then ticket and point 
to the patch notes

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/10788364
5.4 Patch Notes: Siege of Orgrimmar
"All permanent item enhancements provided by Enchanting, Engineering, 
Leatherworking, Tailoring, and various vendors and quests are now able 
to be applied to items of any level. This means all enchantments can now 
be applied to heirloom items.
High level enhancements applied to items equipped by low level players 
have their power scaled down to be similar to enhancements intended for 
that level range.
Low level enhancements applied to items equipped by high level players 
do not grow further in power beyond their intended level range."

The scaling makes a difference to what is best or useful throught levels.
the scaling can also be broken, unless they fixed it, or it got broken 
again.

Got from somewhere when googling, a spreadsheet of enchants

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0AnBPvCvqWJ3udENtVlVmcjA4Q3ZQWmZKWHE3c201UXc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=17

Personally I just can't be bothered much trying to minmax the 
organisation of 20,000 constantly changing details of wow.

Something isn't perfect with my gear, but I looted 5 mobs in the time it 
took you to tell me I was inefficient :-)

On 2/20/2014 10:14 AM, Fvert wrote:
> Not sure how I missed it but I came across some information recently
> that enchants can be put on boa heritage gear yet still leaves them boa.
> It also seems in doing so the enchant scales with the level the same way
> the gear does.
>
> Am I understanding this correctly? I can put the highest Pandaria
> enchant on? I would hate to do so and lose the boa status.

The enchant scales by clvl, but not linearly.  Instead, it bases it on 
what content you are working in.

The bonus you get at lvl1 is the same you get at 59.  Once you hit BC 
levels, it jumps up then stays static until you hit LK levels, etc.

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:14:27 AM UTC-5, Fvert wrote:
> Not sure how I missed it but I came across some information recently
> that enchants can be put on boa heritage gear yet still leaves them boa.
> It also seems in doing so the enchant scales with the level the same way
> the gear does.
 
> Am I understanding this correctly? I can put the highest Pandaria
> enchant on? I would hate to do so and lose the boa status.

Yes, you can. The enchant has to be applied by a high-level toon though. My
afflock is currently leveling using a "Scholarly Headmaster's Charge" with 
Jade Spirit on it. He's now at 66.

pt

Den 21-02-2014 02:30, Lewis skrev:
> In message <fvert-7FFF66....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>
>    Fvert <fvert@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Not sure how I missed it but I came across some information recently
>> that enchants can be put on boa heritage gear yet still leaves them boa.
>
> Yeah, I was told the same thing right after my DK hit level 86. Useful
> information had I gotten it 30 levels sooner.

Same here before I leveled my pally 1-65 _after_ 5.4.  The only enchant 
I use on that char is crusader.  He collects dust in Shattrath now...

>> It also seems in doing so the enchant scales with the level the same way
>> the gear does.
>
> Is it any enchants? Someone said it was only MOP enchants.

Dunno.  but all enchants incl. non-MoP enchants practically scale 
identically.  So there is no reason not to use MoP enchants.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

On 21/02/2014 10:31 PM, Peter T. wrote:

>>> It also seems in doing so the enchant scales with the level the same way
>>> the gear does.
>>
>> Is it any enchants? Someone said it was only MOP enchants.
>
> Dunno.  but all enchants incl. non-MoP enchants practically scale
> identically.  So there is no reason not to use MoP enchants.

Apart from cost and if you have a bunch of older lvl (80) enchants that 
are all worthless, as far as selling anyway. May as well use them up 
since they work the same as MOP for 80 levels anyway.
By 80-85 you are looking at replacing BOA with decent drops.



check out that spreadsheet for gear and scaling changes
seriously

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0AnBPvCvqWJ3udENtVlVmcjA4Q3ZQWmZKWHE3c201UXc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=9

I can't say it is accurate but looks like it for the enchants I used.


now the obligatory ramble:

The first step to recovery from packratitis.

For old 'worthless-to-everybody-but-me' items I put* most of them in the 
guild bank area for junk. A low level tab with gear free to burn up and 
regularly purged.  Best thing ever for those of use who are packrats , 
we can imagine -someone- will have a use.

The choice to vendor isn't our decision, and knowing it would be very 
sad making.

*yeah 'put'  like I 'put' the cat in the cat cage , I swear it can grow 
4 more legs when it wants :-)

I'm late to the party, but I would say that the best enchants to put on BOA gear are the enchants that work at low levels.

The original skill 300 enchants from vanilla, which work on all gear, particularly level 1 gear, are completely overpowered for level 1-20 toons.

Stuff like 100 health to chest armor, fiery weapon/lifestealing on weapons, and minor speed on boots. Suddenly, you can now one shot mobs via your auto attack, survive several counter attacks, and run away from bigger threats. In a nutshell, you can smash through the first 20 levels without thinking, in no time flat, even with cloth toons.
-- 
// T.Hsu

On 7/03/2014 8:25 AM, ti...@thsu.org wrote:
> I'm late to the party, but I would say that the best enchants to put on BOA gear are the enchants that work at low levels.
>
> The original skill 300 enchants from vanilla, which work on all gear, particularly level 1 gear, are completely overpowered for level 1-20 toons.
>
> Stuff like 100 health to chest armor, fiery weapon/lifestealing on weapons, and minor speed on boots. Suddenly, you can now one shot mobs via your auto attack, survive several counter attacks, and run away from bigger threats. In a nutshell, you can smash through the first 20 levels without thinking, in no time flat, even with cloth toons.
>

A bit of a ramble here, summary..I agree :-)

I had a stockpile from skilling an alt and for some reason many just 
don't sell, even for very low prices. Often others put their skillups up 
for less than the cost of me making them, not to mention managing a mat 
shopping list.

The BOA get a few mix and match over time but the replaceable items get 
enchants as well. Whatever I have, whatever is low on the AH.

Usually every ten levels or so on full 1-80 alts, when back at the bank 
to get the heroes board. Being so OP there is little real need to 
replace say a boot with a movement enchant until something -much- better 
came along.

I guess people go for the max level stuff even though you can do a slot 
for 100g over all levels.

I use
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0AnBPvCvqWJ3udENtVlVmcjA4Q3ZQWmZKWHE3c201UXc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=9
and undermine journal for reference.

e.g Note this is one realm, prices differ.

https://theunderminejournal.com/?realm=A-Caelestrasz&search=enchant+boots

I had a stack of tuskar vitality
https://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=A-Caelestrasz&item=39006

Even though it suggest they are ~50g, it doesn't mean they actually 
sell, I have managed to fritter away 15 on boots, and sold 5.
Maybe if I wanted to resub every weekend for a year I have thrown away 
750 gold, but I wouldn't do that so they are worth..much less than the 
time and effort, probably even saved time<->gold. If I wanted to get 
into juggling enchants maybe but thats not my niche.

Same thing for the chest +all stats etc.

I think the great majority of characters are from longtime players, many 
alts with many professions and they fill expensive slots themselves.
For them the AH is mostly for convenience, when they want *THAT* NOW.

The few fresh players, or returning after a long period, don't have much 
gold, they can't pay much even if they know what they could use.

Den 07-03-2014 01:00, | || ||| ||||| || | skrev:

> Usually every ten levels or so on full 1-80 alts, when back at the bank
> to get the heroes board. Being so OP there is little real need to
> replace say a boot with a movement enchant until something -much- better
> came along.

Enchanting vanilla items at lvl 57 is stupid as the stats will rocket up 
the same second you get your vanilla items replaced by a handful of 
green outland items.  But once you get a blue drop from a dungeon 
(usually from the reward bag) its stupid not enchanting it as a blue 
item will last for some levels and time until you hit another expansion 
step.
Going for mastery enchants once you hit 60 is a good idea no matter 
what.  The dps increase is remarkable.

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>