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On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:40:22 -0500, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
wrote:

>Hey all -
>
>Been reading and chatting with many of you over the years, and thought 
>I'd let you know that I cancelled my sub yesterday after non-stop 
>subscription since 10/09.

Sad to hear, but nice of you to drop in and say goodbye, so many folk
just disappear silently, so it's good to know where you've gone!

>I don't know exactly when it happened, but I started to get "meh" with 
>the game out of nowhere.  I think it was soon after finishing the final 
>raid on my main.  All of a sudden I think I was feeling like not wanting 
>to do it again.  I tried over the next few days to run my healer 
>through, and just got frustrated and bored, esp with the quality of 
>players in LFR, which is what my schedule permitted.    Timeless Island 
>really did it for me as well.  The rep grind finally got to me on that 
>one, as well as personally I felt like with the instant gearing, nothing 
>was hard, well earned, or felt special anymore.   The legendary quest 
>line really irritated me in that they were nerfing it continuously as 
>the ex-pac released patches.  For example, why am I busting my ass to 
>get 6K valor, and then you drop it to 3K the day the patch with the next 
>chapter comes out?

Understandable, I reckon everyone hits those patches; I did myself
recently, only been logging in a couple of days a week really,
sometimes a break is a good thing to recharge the batteries :-) I
spent too much time grinding Timeless Isle, got sick of it and lost
interest in the rest... now when I login I remind myself to do other
stuff that I enjoy, but I'm not playing as much as I used to. Not to
worry, plenty time till WoD so there's no rush anyway, may as well
spend some time outside WoW, although I'll keep the sub running as I
do still play a reasonable amount.

>Ironically, my birthday was 2 weeks ago and my mother gave me.......a 60 
>day card.   lmao.   Didn't have the heart to tell her I was thinking of 
>quitting.
>
>I also figured I'd hold onto it in case I decided to return....maybe 
>after I hear some good things a few months after the release on the next 
>ex-pac next year....

You may well find your interest again in a bit - have a look at the
likes of MMO Champion occasionally after the beta comes out, might
inspire you again. My bf gets bored and quits all the time, then
something new gets announced and he'll resub for a bit, new stuff is a
good way to rejuvenate interest. (Like I'm playing D3 again since the
expansion got announced lol, turns out the changes have made it tons
more playable since I was playing when it was new, didn't even know
till I tried again :-))

>Anyway, as for now,  I thank you all for any help I may have gotten over 
>the years, and it was an honor if I helped anyone in return.  I will 
>still drop in from time to time to see if anything is going on....
>
>But right now, it's time to enjoy the holidays with the family...  :)
>
>Hope you have fun and thanks again!

I've always enjoyed talking with you, so I hope you'll be back in WoW
someday, failing that, do please drop in and say hello like Urbin does
from time to time :-)

Den 02-12-2013 19:40, IYM skrev:
> Hey all -
>
> Been reading and chatting with many of you over the years, and thought
> I'd let you know that I cancelled my sub yesterday after non-stop
> subscription since 10/09.
>
> I don't know exactly when it happened, but I started to get "meh" with
> the game out of nowhere.  I think it was soon after finishing the final
> raid on my main.  All of a sudden I think I was feeling like not wanting
> to do it again.  I tried over the next few days to run my healer
> through, and just got frustrated and bored, esp with the quality of
> players in LFR, which is what my schedule permitted.    Timeless Island
> really did it for me as well.  The rep grind finally got to me on that
> one, as well as personally I felt like with the instant gearing, nothing
> was hard, well earned, or felt special anymore.   The legendary quest
> line really irritated me in that they were nerfing it continuously as
> the ex-pac released patches.  For example, why am I busting my ass to
> get 6K valor, and then you drop it to 3K the day the patch with the next
> chapter comes out?
>
> I found myself doing something I could never before understand how
> anyone could do, which was stand around in SW waiting 1 hr for a
> queue...Pet battles?...meh...rep grind some more?  nah....Run a
> scenario?  eh - don't feel like it...Go catch up on the "walking dead"
> episode? Oh yea - forgot about that, and I left queue and logged.  I
> actually was having more fun playing "Skylanders" with my kids.  lmao
>
> I gave it 4 weeks to see if I felt differently.  I sometimes got to the
> top of the stairs looking down to my office where the PC is and said -
> "Nah"... I even got as far as sitting at my PC finishing up something
> else and the WoW icon was staring at me...I stared back.  I just didn't
> feel like it.  The drive up and went cold turkey on me, seemingly out of
> nowhere.  So after 3 weeks, 4 days of not logging , I logged yesterday
> to grab the expired AH items out of the mailbox, ironically go the
> anniversary achieve, then logged.  Went to Battle.net and answered their
> questions, and cancelled...
>
> Ironically, my birthday was 2 weeks ago and my mother gave me.......a 60
> day card.   lmao.   Didn't have the heart to tell her I was thinking of
> quitting.
>
> I also figured I'd hold onto it in case I decided to return....maybe
> after I hear some good things a few months after the release on the next
> ex-pac next year....
>
> Anyway, as for now,  I thank you all for any help I may have gotten over
> the years, and it was an honor if I helped anyone in return.  I will
> still drop in from time to time to see if anything is going on....
>
> But right now, it's time to enjoy the holidays with the family...  :)
>
> Hope you have fun and thanks again!

Ouch.  Thanks and you too. :)

Btw.  My last serious AFK from the game was the whole cata exp.  It was 
a wonderful real-life time.  But I returned 1 week before Panda and I 
wasnt even aware of the Panda expansion at all!  I just wanted to say hi 
to the guildies I left 2 years before when patch 4 was released.
Anyway!  I still remember the night around midnight I was online when 
Panda World went live.  Everybody on /trade were talking about something 
new and I had to ask a guildie.  "Errhh...  What is happening?  Wut da 
fuk are ppl babbling about? ^^".  they ignored me.  Asked a few more 
times and finally got an answer; "New expansion".  "What expansion?" I 
asked.
10 mins later I was downloading my digital copy.  My WoW-life got new 
life. :)

and dont forgot to log around november next year.  I bet Blizzard has a 
neat surprise at their 10 years anniversary. ;)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

I think it was IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov> that wrote something
like...

>Hey all -
>
>Been reading and chatting with many of you over the years, and thought 
>I'd let you know that I cancelled my sub yesterday after non-stop 
>subscription since 10/09.
>
>I don't know exactly when it happened, but I started to get "meh" with 
>the game out of nowhere.  I think it was soon after finishing the final 
>raid on my main.  All of a sudden I think I was feeling like not wanting 
>to do it again.  I tried over the next few days to run my healer 
>through, and just got frustrated and bored, esp with the quality of 
>players in LFR, which is what my schedule permitted.

I think the start of it for me was actually when the dungeon finder
tool started working "properly" during WotLK and people could just
queue up for it to easily get into runs.  That and how it made it so
you could then just keep running random heroics all day long without
any concern about being "locked" to any particular one.  One of the
main reasons I'd leveled every possible tank/healer class to max level
was the idea that I'd be more likely to have a tank or healer I could
take to any particular heroic if a guildy needed one.  While this was
a great thing for people who perhaps didn't have many friends that
played WoW, or could only play at times there were many others around,
it did remove a sliver of sociability from the game.  And not that I
every tried it much, but when the LFR came along as well, it took
another bit of a sliver away.  At least for me.

By itself, I probably would have kept playing, but when real life
meant I only had a 48 hour period of time per week I could play, and
during that period was also when I went out playing board games with a
bunch of friends I just lost the motivation to keep playing.  It was
also during the start of MoP and solo questing wasn't really doing
much for me and running random instances over and over again with
strangers also wasn't that enticing an idea (not until I'd have a few
drinks at least).  Before MoP I'd been getting into the Tol Barad
fight and that was pretty good since you'd tend to see fairly regular
names and you'd develop a bit of community feeling but with MoP and
everyone else getting to 90 before I did, it kinda fizzled out for me.

I keep reading here though and some of the things make me feel like
starting to play again, but until I can make it regularly rather than
just a couple of times a week, it doesn't seem worth the cost.

Ashen Shugar
-- 
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule!

On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:40:22 -0500, IYM <nor...@whitehouse.gov>
wrote:

>Hey all -
>
>Been reading and chatting with many of you over the years, and thought 
>I'd let you know that I cancelled my sub yesterday after non-stop 
>subscription since 10/09.
>
>I don't know exactly when it happened, but I started to get "meh" with 
>the game out of nowhere.  I think it was soon after finishing the final 
>raid on my main.  All of a sudden I think I was feeling like not wanting 
>to do it again.  I tried over the next few days to run my healer 
>through, and just got frustrated and bored, esp with the quality of 
>players in LFR, which is what my schedule permitted.    Timeless Island 
>really did it for me as well.  The rep grind finally got to me on that 
>one, as well as personally I felt like with the instant gearing, nothing 
>was hard, well earned, or felt special anymore.   The legendary quest 
>line really irritated me in that they were nerfing it continuously as 
>the ex-pac released patches.  For example, why am I busting my ass to 
>get 6K valor, and then you drop it to 3K the day the patch with the next 
>chapter comes out?
>
>I found myself doing something I could never before understand how 
>anyone could do, which was stand around in SW waiting 1 hr for a 
>queue...Pet battles?...meh...rep grind some more?  nah....Run a 
>scenario?  eh - don't feel like it...Go catch up on the "walking dead" 
>episode? Oh yea - forgot about that, and I left queue and logged.  I 
>actually was having more fun playing "Skylanders" with my kids.  lmao
>
>I gave it 4 weeks to see if I felt differently.  I sometimes got to the 
>top of the stairs looking down to my office where the PC is and said - 
>"Nah"... I even got as far as sitting at my PC finishing up something 
>else and the WoW icon was staring at me...I stared back.  I just didn't 
>feel like it.  The drive up and went cold turkey on me, seemingly out of 
>nowhere.  So after 3 weeks, 4 days of not logging , I logged yesterday 
>to grab the expired AH items out of the mailbox, ironically go the 
>anniversary achieve, then logged.  Went to Battle.net and answered their 
>questions, and cancelled...
>
>Ironically, my birthday was 2 weeks ago and my mother gave me.......a 60 
>day card.   lmao.   Didn't have the heart to tell her I was thinking of 
>quitting.
>
>I also figured I'd hold onto it in case I decided to return....maybe 
>after I hear some good things a few months after the release on the next 
>ex-pac next year....
>
>Anyway, as for now,  I thank you all for any help I may have gotten over 
>the years, and it was an honor if I helped anyone in return.  I will 
>still drop in from time to time to see if anything is going on....
>
>But right now, it's time to enjoy the holidays with the family...  :)
>
>Hope you have fun and thanks again!

Ummm...whatcha gonna do with your stuff...?
- vetred

On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:40:22 -0500, IYM wrote:

>  Been reading and chatting with many of you over the years, and thought 
>  I'd let you know that I cancelled my sub yesterday after non-stop 
>  subscription since 10/09.

Hey, it's been good having you around. I've now been WoW-less for more than
two years. I miss it much less than I had feared, though I still fonldy
remember the long and good times. The longer I am away, the less I think
I'll be back at the next expansion (I did come back for a month for Panda)
as the gap is just getting bigger.

I wish you all the best with whatever you'll do instead and maybe we'll
occasionally get a sign of life from you here :-)

Cheers
Urbin
-- 
Dun Morogh-EU (PvE)  | Tunyatgong (12), Monk        | Juran  (65), Druid
Urbin  (90), Hunter  | Surana     (75), Mage        | Greeta (65), Rogue
Mymule (85), Warlock | Kordosch   (75), Deathknight | Gera   (26), Paladin
Sunh   (81), Priest  | Taalas     (85), Shaman      | Vargal (42), Warrior

In article <slrnla10sk...@stinky-local.trash.net>,
 Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:40:22 -0500, IYM wrote:
> 
> >  Been reading and chatting with many of you over the years, and thought 
> >  I'd let you know that I cancelled my sub yesterday after non-stop 
> >  subscription since 10/09.
> 
> Hey, it's been good having you around. I've now been WoW-less for more than
> two years. I miss it much less than I had feared, though I still fonldy
> remember the long and good times. The longer I am away, the less I think
> I'll be back at the next expansion (I did come back for a month for Panda)
> as the gap is just getting bigger.
> 
> I wish you all the best with whatever you'll do instead and maybe we'll
> occasionally get a sign of life from you here :-)
> 
> Cheers
> Urbin


I occasionally think about quitting for good but am still getting 
$15/month worth out of it. I finally got around to doing my first raids 
at level through LFR on my main (mainly for the legendary quest line) 
and find that interesting and not excessive drama.The conmpletionist in 
me still has plenty to do with quests and achievements and pets but 
there is a grind aspect to Timeless Isle and the dailies I do. I would 
probably do more PVP battlegrounds if my faction were more competitive.

I have been away for multiple months a couple times due to being too 
busy or the budget being tight enough I had a hard time justifying the 
$15/month. I missed it but also had no problem filling my free time with 
other enjoyable activities.

I don't expect to quit anytime soon but can easily see why people do.


Brian

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:06:24 -0500, Fvert wrote:
>  In article <slrnla10sk...@stinky-local.trash.net>,
>   Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > I've now been WoW-less for more than two years.
> 
>  I occasionally think about quitting for good but am still getting 
>  $15/month worth out of it.

Hehe, I didn't quit because I didn't get my money's worth. I quit because I
got too much out of it (i.e. I spent too much time in WoW instead of in RL
with my wife and kids).

I'm enough of a completionist that I could have occupied myself for quite
some time, yet :-)

Cheers
Urbin
-- 
Dun Morogh-EU (PvE)  | Tunyatgong (12), Monk        | Juran  (65), Druid
Urbin  (90), Hunter  | Surana     (75), Mage        | Greeta (65), Rogue
Mymule (85), Warlock | Kordosch   (75), Deathknight | Gera   (26), Paladin
Sunh   (81), Priest  | Taalas     (85), Shaman      | Vargal (42), Warrior

On 5 Dec 2013 16:03:09 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:06:24 -0500, Fvert wrote:
>>  In article <slrnla10sk...@stinky-local.trash.net>,
>>   Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> > I've now been WoW-less for more than two years.
>> 
>>  I occasionally think about quitting for good but am still getting 
>>  $15/month worth out of it.
>
>Hehe, I didn't quit because I didn't get my money's worth. I quit because I
>got too much out of it (i.e. I spent too much time in WoW instead of in RL
>with my wife and kids).
>
>I'm enough of a completionist that I could have occupied myself for quite
>some time, yet :-)

Hehehe if you come back any time, do not, I repeat NOT, look at the
achievement for collecting all the rare drop items on the Timeless
Isle :-P Since you're likely not coming back soon, it's here:
http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=8728 - every last one of those is a
low droprate, some *really* low, some are from common mobs, others
from rare spawns. So wait up to an hour for mob to spawn, then enjoy
your 1% droprate! I'm mainly aiming for the pets on the bottom of the
list... patch has been out, what, 2 months plus? I still miss 5 of
them, and another one I got on an alt, not my main so didn't count for
the achievement (not making it accountwide made an evil achievement
even worse!). I think this one's the ultimate for completionists, but
wow, I'm not too sure I'll ever actually get it, at present I've got
maybe 1/3 of the drops. I'd *like* to aim for it but I'm not sure I
have the persistence, it feels even worse than Insane in the Membrane
:-)

I'd also suggest, don't look at collecting minipets, as that is
little/no better if you get completist about it (warcraftpets.com is a
wonderful site but I keep on looking at my "score" and thinking "only
37th on my server? And I thought I was quite a serious collector....
must hunt some more!")

I love this game for the completism side, but if you are a completist,
it is indeed wise to avoid getting too sucked in unless you can afford
the time spent ;-) I very much understand why you felt you needed to
quit; had I had a family and commitments a few years back I'd have had
the same problem I think - as it is, I'm a little less bad than I used
to be, I think, but can still easily lose a ton of time working on
something or other :-)

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:45:56 AM UTC-5, Urbin wrote:
> Hey, it's been good having you around. I've now been WoW-less for more than
> two years. I miss it much less than I had feared, though I still fonldy
> remember the long and good times.

I've also been out for about 2-3 years now. The only thing I miss is the camaraderie with my 25 man raiding guild and my 3 man arena team.

The most noticeable thing I've done since is to get myself back into shape. I didn't realize just how much I let myself go during my WoW years.
-- 
// T.Hsu

Den 05-12-2013 22:49, ti...@thsu.org skrev:

> The most noticeable thing I've done since is to get myself back into
> shape. I didn't realize just how much I let myself go during my WoW
> years.

!! :)

-- 
Peter T.

<https://elite.frontier.co.uk/>

On 6/12/2013 8:19 AM, ti...@thsu.org wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:45:56 AM UTC-5, Urbin wrote:
>> Hey, it's been good having you around. I've now been WoW-less for more than
>> two years. I miss it much less than I had feared, though I still fonldy
>> remember the long and good times.
>
> I've also been out for about 2-3 years now. The only thing I miss is the camaraderie with my 25 man raiding guild and my 3 man arena team.
>
> The most noticeable thing I've done since is to get myself back into shape. I didn't realize just how much I let myself go during my WoW years.
>
Well I am back soon for a little while.
  Really, any day now. Yeah right.

Got to get the SOR and there is a large discount on xpacs until new year.
It isn't the $15 a month, $1500 a month easy on the daily stuff just 
once paid I feel like I just HAVE to use it.

Playing on trials to test graphics I wondered why I had the same old 
problem.
A virtual world, a throwaway account, nothing important here
waaaaay too stressful, way too much responsibility, practically 
palpitations after a session.

I am *fine in actually physical stress when you can do something even if 
it is run away but in games there is nothing to DO but mash buttons 
faster. And they get harder to mash the right ones as you keeping being 
unable to DO anything.
* that is just slightly better than others in the whole unexpected 
runaboutscreamandshoot pandemonium


I just like the AH , gathering and roaming around.
I could really get into the completionist stuff, so I try not to let it 
happen :-)

I think maybe what happens is you do stuff, you know you did stuff, 
there is a bit of a rush but it doesn't FEEL like you did anything to go 
along with it.
You didn't just burn up 1,000 Calories lugging gear up a hill, so you do 
more, and more.

And then once you are depleted enough you stop for a while, and don't 
feel like climbing that hill.
You just did a LOT of stuff after all, you deserve a liedown and a cup 
of tea :-)

IYM schreef op 2-12-2013 19:40:

> I also figured I'd hold onto it in case I decided to return....maybe
> after I hear some good things a few months after the release on the next
> ex-pac next year....
>
> Anyway, as for now,  I thank you all for any help I may have gotten over
> the years, and it was an honor if I helped anyone in return.  I will
> still drop in from time to time to see if anything is going on....
>
> But right now, it's time to enjoy the holidays with the family...  :)
>
> Hope you have fun and thanks again!

I know exactly how you feel. I also said my goodbyes in game. The ninth 
this month my sub ends and I won't renew it for now. Perhaps I'll miss 
it later and I'll return, but honestly I cannot imagine it happening 
soon. For all the reasons you wrote and because both my guilds are more 
or less gone. Perhaps cya the next expansion
SF