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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:02:39 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <d6r7oe...@mid.individual.net> 
>  Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>> bigger rewards from the end quest, and less time wasted travelling
>> earlier than necessary. Spending a few minutes longer to finish a
>> storyline does so little harm that it seems daft not to;
>
>It's not a few minutes. For most zones it is at least 30%. Oh, and I
>have to level and alt to get Frostfire Ridge complete, as I recall.
>Well, I suppose it might be possible to explore it on an Alli, but that
>seems like a high repair bill.

Nah, it should be fine, there's no Horde-only places where you can't
pop the map fragment by going someplace neutral nearby, or else
carefully approaching a side with no guards. Even Bladespire Hold, the
big city, just wander through the ogres underneath it and you get it.
It's tougher the other way round actually, getting Karabor without
aggroing guards involved a lot of running round the outer walls trying
to find the one spot which popped the map!

>> instead of going for relentless efficiency over all else,
>
>Oh no, if it was about efficiency I'd make sure to login every day and
>do nothing but pet battles and instances to level to 100. That is easily
>the fastest way.

I have doubts on that one - unless you are a tank, nope, time wasted
sitting in queues makes instances the slowest way to lvl. Can't even
make decent quest progress while in a queue since you can bet the damn
thing will pop right as you start some event that you have to lose all
progress on if you accept. Pet battles, true, they're good exp but I
couldn't stand levelling by them, I get bored too easily.

>> that's just a route to hating everything. Which by the tone of most of
>> your posts, I think you probably do...
>
>I hate WoD. I think it is a clusterfuck from beginning to end. I think
>most people hate it since the subscriber numbers have plummeted to
>levels not seen since the game was new and trending up. Next quarter's
>numbers are going to be *appalling*.

Not necessarily, since a lot of people are subbed by the tokens - the
gold price for those is going up and up in Europe, at least, so
*someone* is buying them! I'm not saying they'll be good, they won't,
but Tanaan was a distinct improvement in gameplay, so probably slowed
the fall, along with the token. I'm liking the game a lot more than I
was, anyway - I've actually found some interest in it again recently,
albeit I still think it's by far the worst expansion we've had, Tanaan
only brought it up to the standard of an expansion at launch, we
should've had a load more content added on top of that by now...

>There have always been things in WoW I didn't like, but in WoD they out
>number the things I do like. TBC was the best expansion, but since then
>they have really cranked up the EZMode dials. Lich King was ridiculous,
>but WoD is even worse with the gear drops and the ease of getting to
>end-game. I enjoyed Pandamania, but a lot of people couldn't get past
>the idea that there were Pandas.

I never understood the hate for Pandaria, still don't - for my
playstyle it was the best expansion of the lot. TBC was fantastic, IF
you had a good group of people to experience it with. Which I did at
the time, so my memories are great, but if I was to go there now, with
my friends scattered, I'd enjoy it a lot less, I suspect.

>> Sounds like you didn't do the questline you're given at lvl 94 in your
>> garrison, which I suspect counts toward the achievement although it's
>> higher lvl than the rest of the zone.
>
>I don't know. I did figure out what it was later on, but it was a
>questline that was not available at level, but one I was evidently
>supposed to go back to. The region on the far south-west comes to mind.
>
>Oh, yes, I think that was it. Gather costume parts and kill demons or
>something. I did finish SMV eventually, but as I said, when I was doing
>the zone at level I did *every* quest and still didn't have the
>achievement. This certainly affected how interested I was in even trying
>to do every quest in any other zones.

That's the one, yep. I don't get why they did that tbh, it seemed
silly to me at the time and still does - I guess they wanted that bit
of storyline to come a little later, as it introduces us to Teron'Gor
and Cho-Gall, who come into Talador and Nagrand. So we get it at
Talador level, but it would've made more sense to just do it at the
same level as the rest anyway. Considering most people probably skip
it and go to Talador first...