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On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:53:49 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <d0id6q...@mid.individual.net> 
>  Catriona R <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
>> I don't, since there's nothing on it that matters, but even if I did,
>> I don't think they're a lot of use if someone's determined to access
>> your data; there's always ways and means, even if something's
>> supposedly uncrackable *now*, doesn't mean it will be forever.
>
>Cryptography is a well understood science. An iPhone has, even with just
>a 4 digit PIN, 10,000 possible passcodes and you are only allowed 10
>guesses (and those 10 guesses take several days). So, there's a 1:1000
>chance of somone guessing the PIN.

Funnily enough I'm not talking about "guessing", I'm not completely
stupid and I do happen to understand how passwords work.... I'm
referring to "hacking", which tends to find security holes faster than
companies can patch them. 

>> Your call, there's no way I'd do that, since I don't believe any OS is
>> entirely secure,
>
>Spoken like someone who hasn't investigated how the iPhone security
>works. In all likelihood the security of your computer and internet is
>FAR lower than the security of the iPhone. Anyone stealing your computer
>would be able to, unless you've taken rather extraordinary steps, uncover
>all the data that is on your computer with minimal effort.

Yes, for *now* it may well be as secure as you claim. I'm saying it
probably won't ALWAYS be so secure, as hackers tend to learn new
tricks, thus it's somewhat risky to trust it 100% in the first place. 

And a phone which can be picked up and put in a pocket is just a
little more likely to be stolen than my very bulky and heavy desktop
computer, which has a case dating back to years when apparently bigger
was better (it's a bit over the top now but I can't be bothered
replacing it - it weighs a ton so I don't see anyone stealing it
unless they have a van handy and clear the whole house out) ;-)

>> and given the inflated price of Apple products,
>
>You get what you pay for. Security, for one. Of course, a decent Samsung
>phone costs the same amount as an Apple phone, so not sure what is
>'inflated'.

To me "inflated" is a phone that costs more than my entire monthly
income. Hence my saying they're likely to be targetted, as people who
can afford to spend that much on a phone can't be short on cash...