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On 15/05/2014 12:25 AM, Lewis wrote:
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>> On 14/05/2014 10:28 PM, Lewis wrote:
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>>>> The fastest way to find if you need something is to delete it, sure
>>>> enough you will find something that needs it within an hour. At least on
>>>> ah it is, GASP...cancel..cancel..cancelDAMNIT  :-)
>>>
>>> A friend of mine had to pay $$$$$ for frozen orbs. She used to have
>>> piles of them, but dumped them all when they became useless.
>>>
>>> Then she leveled a tailor. One of the carpets requires 10 or so Frozen
>>> Orbs. Oops.
>
>>    Have to cover the costs of someone who has kept putting them up for
>> years without a bite :-)
>>    If wow was really concerned with the economy it would be a lot easier
>> with a longer AH time, or a AH request board.
>> Put up a request, anonymous so people can't just go outside, AH holds it
>> in escrow as it does now with bids, when filled the AH takes its cut.
>> That would be too simple.
>>    Actually, is there any site for request per server like that?
>
>
>>    I just vendored a bag full of 80 gems that somehow accumulated again,
>> including yet another stack of kings amber and a couple of stacks of orbs.
>
>>    I collect these because people put them up for less than vendor, I am
>> doing them a favour by saving them losing their deposit and they don't
>> even know it :-)  It is really hard to keep the packrat from clicking on
>> a guaranteed, if tiny, profit.
>> A sure bet is the one someone wants is the one I don't have at the
>> moment, and will have a stack next week.
>> All that valuable MkIII loot, vendor fodder in MkV.
>> All your legendaries will soon look like Betamax tapes :-)
>
> Before Blizzard changed the AH mechanism I made oodles of gold simply
> auto buying anything listed for less than vendor and then selling it at
> the vendor. I'd put 1000g on my mule and empty his 18 slot bags and go
> to town.
>
> Sometimes the money was only coppers, but sometimes it was much more.
>
> I once used the mule's buying power to corner the market on...
>
> Um...
>
> A low-level but critical mat. I single-handedly drove the price from
> about 15s each to over 1g25 each simply by buying every bit of silk on
> the AH that was under 1g each for a few days, then dumped everything
> onto the AH at 1g10 and watched the feeding frenzy as my hundreds of
> stacks were sold in a flash and then the market collapsed.
>
> I made an amazing amount of gold on that. I think I cleared about 10K
> gold in one day with about 4 days of auto buying.
>
> It started as a mistake, honestly. It was suppose to autobuy everything
> under 10s each. After I cleared the AH though I though, hey, I can make
> this work, and continued to autobuy for a few more days. When i saw
> people in trade chat complaining about the high prices I waited 12 hours
> (for 4pm server time) and dumped.
>

That only works when people want everything now, which is nearly 
everyone it seems.

When I had a skill to level I bought the mats ahead of time when low, if 
there was a gap usually it just waited. Or I played the market on that 
choke point having found it.
There is always something else to do, usually way too much to do so do 
the fun stuff.

  I don't usually gouge, usually I work on quantity at a price that 
should sell from the warehouse. I put ti up and really hope never to see 
that stack again. Even if they are all clones :-)

  The other day someone was complaining a mat was 1k a stack. I pointed 
out they could make a potential skillup for 5g with a cheap mat, 15-20g 
a point at fresh green, less with vendor/de the result.
But they wanted something they imagined they could sell, in competition 
with everyone else who made it with expensive mats.
So the problem wasn't the mat price but they imagined they were losing 
virtual profit from the market they hoped to gouge :-)

  Of course few people do the market, which is good for me. If everyone 
was selling it means they have something to sell, which means there 
would be nobody to sell to.
Our AH usually has around 30k objects I have maybe 500 up, about half 
would be single gems etc, the rest would be 20 stacks. Rule of thumb I 
don't do much below 10g, either stack or single, not for 2g potential 
profita click.
   About 2000 , rough guess, would be transmog pieces. The rest is 
people putting 20 stacks up when only 3 or 4 would sell in 48 hours.
They drive each others prices down, and still put a lot up at the lower 
prices. If anything the lower the price the more they dump.


So there aren't that many actually stockpiling and reselling.

I do quite a nice trade in seeing my 2-5 small stacks sell, lower 
deposit = longer time, then asking if they want any more at 10% off for 
a full stack. Saves work all round and often they will ask for other 
stuff if levelling.

The thing that really ticks me off is the 1 copper undercut. Something 
gouging at 50g, someone drops to 30g, they are the one setting the 
price. The undercut would have been happy at the higher price and tells 
me nothing about a stable point. The good thing is they will usually 
follow you all the way down in an hour with large stacks against 
1-stacks then just unzip the stack to whatever you want.

  Given a choice I always take the higher price first. The price setter 
shouldn't lose out their deposit, I see it as they gave me information.
The 1 copper just caused a fog.