🚀 go-pugleaf

On Thu, 01 May 2014 10:49:48 +0200, "Peter T." <pinoc10@hotmail.cum>
wrote:

>Den 01-05-2014 01:59, Catriona R skrev:
>
>>> Well.  As long as people survive in pve battles (questing, minibosses
>>> etc) and actually they have a feeling of being overwhelming I guess they
>>> really dont care much about gear and raids.
>>
>> Common misconception, mainly used by those who are hardcore raiders
>> when arguing why the rest shouldn't get anything. Character
>
>I'm not a hardcore raider.  I'm in a non-HC guild with a very laid back 
>atmosphere and some of us finally killed Garrosh on normal a few weeks 
>ago 7-8(!) months after 5.4 was released. :)

You're still ahead of the more casual types gearwise though, and I can
say from the viewpoint of someone who only does LFR: I like being able
to work towards better gear, evem though I'm geared well enough to do
anything I want alreayd, it's just about progressing my character even
more. Part of why I never bothered with SoO LFR was the gear in it is
rubbish: I had almost as good from valor before it came out and got
better in nearly every slot on the Timeless isle...

>I look at my guild's members where many of them are fine with just 
>killing a rare, doing a hc scen and a LFR now and then.  Most of them 
>dont even sign up for our guild's weekly flex run where some of us uses 
>our well-geared mains for carrying them through the bosses so they can 
>get even better gear!

It's entirely possible that they don't like organised raiding, or
don't have the time to commit to it. I've never done a flex raid, and
there's plenty pugs on my realm, plus I actually do meet the stupid
ilvl requirements most use - I just don't enjoy it and don't want to
dedicate a big chunk of time to it. I still imagine your guildies like
having the option to get tier pieces in LFR, both in looks and
setbonuses :-)

>> progression is a big part of the game to *everyone*, not just raiders,
>> and having been able to work towards setbonuses, and get nice looks on
>> our gear while playing the way which suits those of us who prefer LFR
>> for the last two years, it's not too nice to have that taken away now.
>> You perhaps haven't seen the graphics on the LFR "sets"
>> (http://wowhead.com/news=236594/warlords-of-draenor-transmog-preview-3d-armor-sets),
>> but they're hideous imo, it's like greens, I will certainly be
>> transmogging them away, quite possibly to the crafted or even dungeon
>> sets, both of which are much nicer! Sure, not everyone cares about
>> looks, but I know a good number do. And I think *everyone* likes to
>> get good gear, I don't see the point in total removal of bonuses,
>> maybe just make them exclusive to LFR and a bit lower effect (ie,
>> normal raiders can't mix in LFR gear for the bonus), would solve the
>> problem in a way that won't upset half the playerbase.
>
>I dont have a problem with that.  Most gear havent been pretty since BC. 
>  Today's gear is dark and dull and I wonder why it is that as the rest 
>of the game is pretty cartoon'ish.  Its like Blizzard is trying to sit 
>between 2 chairs - one with the cartoon style and another with a more 
>updated and modern style inspired from many other games.

I'm with you on that count, there's very few sets I've liked since
Burning Crusade, almost nothing in Wrath/Cata, a slightly larger
number in MoP but it's just not really my style. The WoD paladin set
seems to be returning to the TBC feel though, if my main was a pally
I'd be wanting that one.

>And the set bonuses?  Honestly.  It's still just a gear set bonus.  A 
>huge part of the playerpool will see the endgame content anyway and with 
>epics in every slot.  Just at a lower difficulty level.

Yes, but why *take away* what we've had for two years? That's my point
really, I don't greatly care for setbonuses myself, since I rarely
have more than 2-piece bonus (there's always higher ilvl non-set
pieces available), but it's still an option that's being removed.
There's also removal of trinkets, I've no idea what LFR gets in
exchange, I'd hope there's *some* type of trinket available, but who
knows. it's basically turning LFR into dungeons, instead of another
form of raiding, since it no longer has much in common with the other
raids as far as rewards go. 

Guess the elitist whiners got their wish, but it seems daft to punish
a large proportion of players just because a few vocal idiots don't
like others getting lower versions of "their" loot...