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On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:50:51 +0000, Catriona R wrote:
>  On 23 Mar 2011 22:26:20 GMT, Urbin <urbin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >I noticed a few things
> >- pulling without rage is even harder than on my bear, I usually try to
> >  first apply a rend for the bleed effect and then a thunder clap to spread
> >  the bleed to all mobs (I put the talent points into that). Is this a good
> >  starting strategy? Or should I first thunderclap for Aoe snap aggro?
> 
>  I used to charge then thunderclap, but that was before 4.0, don't
>  believe I ever had a way to spread rend around with thunderclap, that
>  sounds pretty nice as an option! I'd probably figure what your
>  groupmates are like; if they unleash massive aoe nukes the second you
>  charge, thunderclap first, if not, go for the spreading your bleed
>  around deal.

Thanks, I'll do that, then.

> >- after that I mostly Shield Slam, as it uses less rage than Heroic Strike
> >  and I am still fighting for rage a bit
> 
>  Heroic Strike is the warrior version of Maul really, nowadays intended
>  just to be used when you have plenty of rage, to burn it off.

That's a good analogy and one I had made myself, so I placed HS on the same
button that my druid has Maul on.

> >- I taunt if a mob leaves me and then Shield Slam it when it comes into rage
> >- I try to use Victory Rush when available as it doesn't cost rage and
> >  causes high threat
> >- Strike seems pretty useless. At 20 rage it costs the same as shield slam
> >  but according to DrDamage only does 21 damage (against 142 with Shield
> >  Slam). Am I missing something or can I just leave that ability off my
> >  bar?
> 
>  I believe Strike is just there as a generic ability for warriors below
>  lvl 10 who don't have their spec-specific ability yet. so at least
>  they can do *somethying*

Ah, I see.

>  (all meleeish classes that didn't already have a spammable ability got
>  given one for low lvls, thank goodness

Hm, hasn't strike got a 3s cooldown? Or am I confusing this with something
else?

> >- Charge is only available out of combat and in Battle Stance. I'd love a
> >  macro that puts me into Battle Stance (if not already in it), Charges and
> >  then puts me back in Defensive Stance.
> 
>  Word of warning, that *will* leave you with no rage

Ah, dang. I hadn't realised switching stances kills rage.

>  At a higher lvl, there should be a talent that lets you charge in
>  combat and in any stance, but you're probably a way off that one atm
>  (it was lvl 50 pre-4.0, no idea what it is now)

It's available at level 29 now (Warbringer, I think) and I'm very much
looking forward to that!

> >- is there any good way to fronload rage and/or threat when pulling?
> 
>  Not really. I believe shouts now give rage? If so, pull from ranged on
>  one you can't just charge in on, and then do a shout

Good to know, though I don't believe I have one yet.

>  Likewise I'll often faerie fire and then enrage on my bear, gain both
>  rage and treat this way.

Yupp, that is also my standard druid pulling pattern and while I have a
thrown weapon to replace fairy fire, I was missing the enrage. It seems the
shouts will take that place when I get it.

Cheers
Urbin
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