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Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191305
Author: MTK
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:01
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Hi, im in the downunder land, Australia.
Just wandering does anyone have tips for reducing LAG when playing UT3 over 
the net?

I connect to the net through my wireless network.

Thanks 
Re: Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191286
Author: duffguy
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:16
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MTK schrieb:
> Hi, im in the downunder land, Australia.
> Just wandering does anyone have tips for reducing LAG when playing UT3 over 
> the net?
> 
> I connect to the net through my wireless network.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> 
Yes, disable the wlan hardware in your pc and use a cable instead. Also, 
I do not recommend using wireless keyboards and mice.

In my opinion, wlans are great for surfing in the net, but unusable for
playing FPS games.

I have customers using wlans (even 300Mbps) experiencing database 
connection loss and 'funny' timing problems in applications leading to
crashes or freezing desktops. Just changed to ethernet and all
trouble went away :-))


hth
duff
Re: Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191289
Author: Folk
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:07
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:16:55 +0200, duffguy <duffguy@gawnet.ch> wrote:

>MTK schrieb:
>> Hi, im in the downunder land, Australia.
>> Just wandering does anyone have tips for reducing LAG when playing UT3 over 
>> the net?
>> 
>> I connect to the net through my wireless network.
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> 
>Yes, disable the wlan hardware in your pc and use a cable instead. Also, 
>I do not recommend using wireless keyboards and mice.
>
>In my opinion, wlans are great for surfing in the net, but unusable for
>playing FPS games.
>
>I have customers using wlans (even 300Mbps) experiencing database 
>connection loss and 'funny' timing problems in applications leading to
>crashes or freezing desktops. Just changed to ethernet and all
>trouble went away :-))

Agreed.  And then there's the security issues.

I'm an IT consultant and one of my clients wanted to use wireless
access for the cash registers in their retail stores.  I emailed them
a couple of articles about large-scale data theft (credit card
numbers) in a wireless retail environment and that was the last I
heard about wireless.  ;-)
Re: Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191294
Author: Folk
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:11
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:01:39 +1000, "MTK" <zerotek@tpg.com.au> wrote:

>Hi, im in the downunder land, Australia.
>Just wandering does anyone have tips for reducing LAG when playing UT3 over 
>the net?
>
>I connect to the net through my wireless network.

Oh yeah.  Forgot to address the original post.  :)

There's nothing to be done about network latency in far-flung regions
like Australia.  If you have any 'try before you buy' ISP's in your
area you could see who gives you the best connection to your favorite
servers, but short of running your own server (which might not be a
bad idea) you're only going to get decent ping to nearby servers.
Re: Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191291
Author: Flash
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:33
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Folk wrote:

> I'm an IT consultant and one of my clients wanted to use wireless
> access for the cash registers in their retail stores.  I emailed them
> a couple of articles about large-scale data theft (credit card
> numbers) in a wireless retail environment and that was the last I
> heard about wireless.  ;-)

There's no good substitute for some cat5e, unless it's cat6...

That said, the Homeplug stuff is very very useful for non-secure 
networking. A lot of the buildings where I'm networking are very thick 
sandstone or granite, which are right bastards to get wifi through. The 
bog standard 85mpbs homeplug pairs just instantly connect all over the 
site. Wish I'd discovered them earlier!
Re: Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191297
Author: Folk
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:38
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:33:58 +0100, Flash <NOSPAM@digdilem.org> wrote:

>Folk wrote:
>
>> I'm an IT consultant and one of my clients wanted to use wireless
>> access for the cash registers in their retail stores.  I emailed them
>> a couple of articles about large-scale data theft (credit card
>> numbers) in a wireless retail environment and that was the last I
>> heard about wireless.  ;-)
>
>There's no good substitute for some cat5e, unless it's cat6...
>
>That said, the Homeplug stuff is very very useful for non-secure 
>networking. A lot of the buildings where I'm networking are very thick 
>sandstone or granite, which are right bastards to get wifi through. The 
>bog standard 85mpbs homeplug pairs just instantly connect all over the 
>site. Wish I'd discovered them earlier!

I've never tried that tech.  Good to know it's out there.
Re: Anyone with LAG reducing tips?
#191300
Author: ยงฤร—darts
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:50
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On 21-Aug-2008, Folk <Folk@folk.com> wrote:

> Agreed.  And then there's the security issues.

Yup.  No such thing as wireless security.  Any 12 year old can figure out
the tutorials for Backtrack and even get it to boot from a flash drive.

As for reducing wireless lag.  Well, there are a few things that can be
done.  First, increasing the number of possible tcpip connections (linksys
and buffalo routers with DDWRT or Tomato firmware) will reduce a lot of
problems.  Bit Torrent downloaders testify to those sorts of issues, but it
is surprising how many connections get opened by some web pages serving
advertising.  If anyone else is on the wireless network, and they open a
couple of pages on myspace or somewhere like that, good luck getting
priority for the game over their ads with only 256 or 512 available tcpip
connections in the router.  Double that to 1024 or maybe even tripple it and
you can gain some benefit.

That leads me to the next item.  QOS.  Most wireless routers these days
allow you to create some quality of service rules.  Add whatever port UT3
uses to a QOS rule and you could likely see a bit of improvement.  You get
your game packets handled before anyone else on the network gets their web
pages and etc handled.

At your own risk, you might also be able to overclock the routers processor.
 Making more possible connections available, making a QOS rule, and speeding
up the processor by a few mhz can make a lot of otherwise slow/laggy routers
into packet moving beasts.

Improving your wireless signal (if necessary) is desireable.  If your signal
to noise ratio is out of whack, you can do a lot of different things to
improve it.  You might check Ebay for a device called a YDI MaxRanger.  It
is a bidirectionally amplified external indoor antenna for mc or rp-sma
connectors.  It will turn any old POS wireless card into a 250 +- mw kick
ass device.  Be sure to search title and description when you look for
those.  The guy that sells the ones with rp-sma connectors doesn't say
"MaxRanger" in his title.  Oh, and he usually doesn't ship outside the US,
but I asked him to send one to Canada when I was recently up north and he
was kind enough to do so.  (lesson in that is that it never hurts to ask).
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