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5 total messages Started by §ď×darts Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:14
Mouse Keyboard Mousing Surface Revisited
#191219
Author: §ď×darts
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:14
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I have to thank Folk for the advice on the mousing surface.  The IceMat is
excellent!

What I ended up doing was getting a Razer Copperhead, a Razer Pro (white
mouse built pretty much identicle to the copperhead), 2 IceMat second
editions and 2 Razer Pro Mousing Surfaces.

I don't know which I like better from the mousing surfaces.  The IceMat is
smooth.  The Razer Pro is somehow a little faster.  I learned from the
textured surface of the lousy ratpadz that the texture can eat the feet off
a mouse (and I forgot to order the mouse skates, but I'll get those ordered
today), so I'm going to bet that a few months from now I'll be looking at
the feet wishing I had gone 100% with the IceMats.  Both surfaces stay very
cool and are big enough to be comfortable (both are an inch or so longer and
wider than the ratpadz).

The Razer Copperhead and Razer Pro mice are pretty amazing.  It took a day
or so to get used to, but I doubt I'll ever want a different mouse.  In
fact, I'm going to replace every mouse I have with these.  -  My reading
indicates they have durability issues, and I've already experienced the
random disconnection problem that seems to plague the copperhead and a few
of Razers other products.  -  I'm also pretty sure it's a driver problem and
not a defect in the materials.  I'm almost certain I've solved the problem
with mine.  Even if it is expensive and has durability problems, I don't
care.  The older I get, the pickier I get and the more pennies I pinch. 
Normally, any product that even gives me so much as a hint of reliability or
durability problems would be avoided or discarded in favor of a "better"
product.  -  If I had to replace a copperhead or pro twice a year, I'd do
it.  In a few short days, I've become addicted to this mouse.

There are at least a hundred reviews on the web about the copperhead, so I
won't get too detailed.  -  The reviews will all tell you that the right
side buttons are pretty much useless.  I think that's true to a degree
(unless you are a leftie, of course).  I left mine at the default of being
the DPI switching buttons so it's not like I'm going to use them more than a
few times during a gaming session.  The copperhead and pro are the
smoothest, most accurate, and most comfortable mice I've ever had the
pleasure to use.

All of the buttons are sensitive.  That took some getting used to.  While
gaming, it's very easy to get a little excited and apply some pressure to
the mouse.  That can result in side buttons being triggered at inopportune
times.  Also, the length of the primary and secondary buttons (left and
right clickers) coupled with their sensitivity was a little hard to get used
to.  Any pressure from any part of the finger can trigger the right or left
click... pretty much all the way back to the knuckle.  I have a bit of a
tendency to apply some pressure as far back as my second finger joint when
repositioning my mouse, so I had to make a change to an old habit.

I don't really think I like my mouse being all lit up... there is no way to
turn off the lights, but at least they aren't so bright as to be
distracting.  If I were younger, I would probably be thinking that the
lights are "cool" and might even consider that feature to be a plus.  My
tastes have changed with age, and I no longer buy cases with side windows
and cold cathode lights and LED fans and polished aluminum fan grills etc
etc.  I don't think I've gotten so old to return to buying beige cases, but
I really don't want or need bliking or pulsating lights on my computer gear
any more.  That makes the Razer Pro a more desireable mouse for me, I think.
 I haven't really found any difference between the copperhead and the Pro
other than the copperhead is lit up and the pro is just white with no
lights.

I've always been OK with my Microsoft Optical mice and the occasional
Logitech I've had.  I've been happy enough with thier comfort and features.
I've always wished for just a little bit better accuracy (specifically when
working with images and drawings).  But all in all, I've been more or less
satisfied. Well, these Razer mice are a real treat.  The only way I can say
it is this:  "These are luxury mice for sure."  -  For the last few years
(until my recent new build), my upgrade decisions have all been designed to
make me more comfortable at my workstations and for me to enjoy using my
workstations more -  things like larger flat panel monitors, better
speakers, more storage, more ergonomic and comfortable chairs etc etc etc. 
Had I realized that a mouse could make this much of a difference in my work
(and play) environment, I would have upgraded my mice long ago.
Re: Mouse Keyboard Mousing Surface Revisited
#191220
Author: Folk
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:08
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:14:05 GMT, "§ï×darts"
<sixdartsREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

Nice review.  Thanks for sharing!
Re: Mouse Keyboard Mousing Surface Revisited
#191221
Author: goPostal
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:15
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"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
news:ubots3hgqngso1a25mokcmqu507rc9i0cb@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:14:05 GMT, "§ď×darts"
> <sixdartsREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Nice review.  Thanks for sharing!

<piling on>

Yes, well done!

Now I'm going to have to get one.
Re: Mouse Keyboard Mousing Surface Revisited
#191222
Author: §ď×darts
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:34
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On  9-Mar-2008, "goPostal" <agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:

> <piling on>
>
> Yes, well done!
>
> Now I'm going to have to get one.

Don't hit the "add to cart" button just yet.  My random disconnect issue has
returned... but Razer says they'll replace it with a working mouse.

Folk's mention of the SteelSeries stuff set me to reading. I ordered a
SteelSeries Akari 62001.  It should be here Thursday.
I'll say again that I really really really like the Razer.  I'm disapointed
with the quality control issue, but if Razer replaces it without issue then
I'll have absolutely no complaints.  In the mean time, the Akari is on its
way and I'll ship off the copperhead when it gets here.  The Akari might
have a lot to live up to after a few days with my copperhead, but I'll give
it a short review after I've spent a day or two with it.  SorX at
www.xsreviews.co.uk has some nice things to say about it.  Their review
methods there are a little different, but I had a question about a review
SorX did recently and he happily responded to email and clarified every
point I asked about (and actually provided satisfactory answers), so I'll
give their methods the benefit of the doubt.
I'm still on a quest for a keyboard.  It looks like even if I was willing to
spend the money on a SteelSeries keyboard that I'd have trouble finding one.
 Google tells me that there are just a handful of keyboards on the market
that are touted as "gaming" keyboards.  I like the idea of key buffering for
simultanious keypresses... and I almost think that a back-lit keyboard might
be something I would like considering the amount of time I spend gaming at
3:00 a.m. when the rest of my household is sleeping.  But, I used both
Logitech G15s at a friends house the other day.  The old version is superior
to the new version in a lot of different ways... but I don't think I want
either of them.  I don't have much use for the LCD display, and I didn't
care much for their feel.
I've read a great deal about the Razer keyboards.  I'm getting a hint from
my reading that the same quality control issues present on their laser mice
also exists in their keyboards.  I won't consider any of their keyboards
until after I see how the RMA process goes with my copperhead.
I'm sort of intrigued by the IdeaZon Merc Stealth keyboard. I''ve really
about reached (or maybe even slightly exceeded) my budget for my new rig, so
it will have to wait a couple of weeks or so, but I think I'm going to buy
one and try it out.  If I don't like it, I'm sure I can give it to one of my
buddies for Christmas or something.  I honestly don't know if I will like a
gamepad on the side of my keyboard, and I already know that I'll have
trouble with the arrow keys and page nav keys being tied in to the number
pad... but everything I've read indicates that the keys operate "softly"
enough that my damaged ring finger and pinky on my left hand should be able
to operate it.  
Re: Mouse Keyboard Mousing Surface Revisited
#191223
Author: §ď×darts
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:48
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On 10-Mar-2008, "§ď×darts" <sixdartsREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Don't hit the "add to cart" button just yet.  My random disconnect issue
> has
> returned... but Razer says they'll replace it with a working mouse.


Well, For gamers by gamers... my ass.

Razer did not replace my mouse.  The story is just too long to tell.  In a
nutshell, Razer support sucks.

While screwing around with them, I started looking over their product line.
Wow.  What scamming bastards.  I saw the chipset on their new audio card. 
It is a $23.00 USD C_Media card that they are charging almost $100 USD for.
Rip-Off cock suckers.

Well, thankfully, my SteelSeries Ikari works as advertised.  I've been
happily fragging away.
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