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dude, do u know when is the pc version coming out? they have been saying to 
pre-order it for months...it has taken soo long waiting for it to be 
released....
"Sumphucker" <kevin.hall603nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
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>I got an import copy of UT3 on PS3, US distribution imported to the UK.
> Having bought this in good faith from a high street store I find that I 
> cannot connect to any of the UK servers or play on-line with anyone on my 
> friends list. I get the error message " package core is not downloadable"
>
> I took said game back to shop to replace for a UK version only to be told 
> in no uncertain terms to "get stuffed", having not kept the all important 
> receipt!"
>
> Is this a common problem amongst imported games?, as this is the first I 
> have purchased. Also, will a PS3 patch be released to combat this?
>
> Cheers
>
> Kev.H
> YNWA
> 

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:29:05 +0100, "Robin Mitra"
<robinmitra1@hotmail.com> wrote:

>dude, do u know when is the pc version coming out? they have been saying to 
>pre-order it for months...it has taken soo long waiting for it to be 
>released....

PC version of UT3?  It was released ages ago before the console
versions.

"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:29:05 +0100, "Robin Mitra"
> <robinmitra1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>dude, do u know when is the pc version coming out? they have been saying 
>>to
>>pre-order it for months...it has taken soo long waiting for it to be
>>released....
>
> PC version of UT3?  It was released ages ago before the console
> versions.

<ahem> I think a more accurate statement is the console version was released 
to the PC ages ago :)~

BTW, have you guys read the forums lately? Modders are having a hell of a 
time doing their thing because so much is hard coded, all the way down to 
skins and voicepacks. PC port of a console if ever there was one. 

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:50:59 -0700, "goPostal"
<agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
>news:brlv54le179a02vtd2j5h9ifctbu97i84e@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:29:05 +0100, "Robin Mitra"
>> <robinmitra1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>dude, do u know when is the pc version coming out? they have been saying 
>>>to
>>>pre-order it for months...it has taken soo long waiting for it to be
>>>released....
>>
>> PC version of UT3?  It was released ages ago before the console
>> versions.
>
><ahem> I think a more accurate statement is the console version was released 
>to the PC ages ago :)~

I stand corrected.  :)

>BTW, have you guys read the forums lately? Modders are having a hell of a 
>time doing their thing because so much is hard coded, all the way down to 
>skins and voicepacks. PC port of a console if ever there was one. 

I quit visiting Epic's forums long ago.  Unless your post consists of
"Epic rocks and I would love to have their babies" then your post gets
deleted and you get banned.

"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:50:59 -0700, "goPostal"
> <agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message
>>news:brlv54le179a02vtd2j5h9ifctbu97i84e@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:29:05 +0100, "Robin Mitra"
>>> <robinmitra1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>dude, do u know when is the pc version coming out? they have been saying
>>>>to
>>>>pre-order it for months...it has taken soo long waiting for it to be
>>>>released....
>>>
>>> PC version of UT3?  It was released ages ago before the console
>>> versions.
>>
>><ahem> I think a more accurate statement is the console version was 
>>released
>>to the PC ages ago :)~
>
> I stand corrected.  :)
>

Man, you got it easy. Correction for me usually involves some sort of blunt 
force trauma from a frying pan or rolling pin.

>>BTW, have you guys read the forums lately? Modders are having a hell of a
>>time doing their thing because so much is hard coded, all the way down to
>>skins and voicepacks. PC port of a console if ever there was one.
>
> I quit visiting Epic's forums long ago.  Unless your post consists of
> "Epic rocks and I would love to have their babies" then your post gets
> deleted and you get banned.

Yes, there is a real undercurrent of resentment brewing. I can't blame 
people. It's a real mess they have created. Truthfully I bought UT3, played 
a while on the few servers with real people then uninstalled. 

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:08:39 -0700, "goPostal"
<agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
>news:srf264hugafdqs824dfhi4a6vo9r7laqd6@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:50:59 -0700, "goPostal"
>> <agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message
>>>news:brlv54le179a02vtd2j5h9ifctbu97i84e@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:29:05 +0100, "Robin Mitra"
>>>> <robinmitra1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>dude, do u know when is the pc version coming out? they have been saying
>>>>>to
>>>>>pre-order it for months...it has taken soo long waiting for it to be
>>>>>released....
>>>>
>>>> PC version of UT3?  It was released ages ago before the console
>>>> versions.
>>>
>>><ahem> I think a more accurate statement is the console version was 
>>>released
>>>to the PC ages ago :)~
>>
>> I stand corrected.  :)
>>
>
>Man, you got it easy. Correction for me usually involves some sort of blunt 
>force trauma from a frying pan or rolling pin.
>
>>>BTW, have you guys read the forums lately? Modders are having a hell of a
>>>time doing their thing because so much is hard coded, all the way down to
>>>skins and voicepacks. PC port of a console if ever there was one.
>>
>> I quit visiting Epic's forums long ago.  Unless your post consists of
>> "Epic rocks and I would love to have their babies" then your post gets
>> deleted and you get banned.
>
>Yes, there is a real undercurrent of resentment brewing. I can't blame 
>people. It's a real mess they have created. Truthfully I bought UT3, played 
>a while on the few servers with real people then uninstalled. 

Yup.  I uninstalled 2K4, installed UT3, hated it, uninstalled UT3 and
eventually reinstalled 2K4.  The only decent ONS servers out there
these days are Torlan only, but it's a great way to kill an hour or
so.

"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:08:39 -0700, "goPostal"
> <agutgopostal@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yup.  I uninstalled 2K4, installed UT3, hated it, uninstalled UT3 and
> eventually reinstalled 2K4.  The only decent ONS servers out there
> these days are Torlan only, but it's a great way to kill an hour or
> so.

I chat with a guy who helps me learn scripting. I asked him "You want my 
key?" He said "Sure. I'll try to find someone who will use it." He had to 
ask around. That right there tells me all I need to know.

BTW anyone want the install DVD and ed DVD?

goPostal wrote:

> BTW, have you guys read the forums lately? Modders are having a hell of a 
> time doing their thing because so much is hard coded, all the way down to 
> skins and voicepacks. PC port of a console if ever there was one. 

I remember the frustration the first and only time I tried to install a 
user map on ut3, before the forums had guides on how to do it.

Completely different to any other UT, paths are randomly invented and 
useless, and very untuitive (to the player, what's cooked and uncooked? 
Why do they need to know?)  No package handling system like .umod.

The best bit though was that map was a rewrite of CTF-Andaction. A map 
famous because it was small - only 48kb for ut99. Under UT3 the same map 
was 17 *megabytes*. Okay - the mapper got carried away with events and 
textures but it was still just a box!

"Flash" <NOSPAM@digdilem.org> wrote in message 
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> goPostal wrote:
>
>> BTW, have you guys read the forums lately? Modders are having a hell of a 
>> time doing their thing because so much is hard coded, all the way down to 
>> skins and voicepacks. PC port of a console if ever there was one.
>
> I remember the frustration the first and only time I tried to install a 
> user map on ut3, before the forums had guides on how to do it.
>
> Completely different to any other UT, paths are randomly invented and 
> useless, and very untuitive (to the player, what's cooked and uncooked? 
> Why do they need to know?)  No package handling system like .umod.
>
> The best bit though was that map was a rewrite of CTF-Andaction. A map 
> famous because it was small - only 48kb for ut99. Under UT3 the same map 
> was 17 *megabytes*. Okay - the mapper got carried away with events and 
> textures but it was still just a box!

I opened the editor to just take a look, and its quickly become something 
that no normal level person can use. Each editor has become increasingly 
complex for no real reason. I have a book here: "Mastering Unreal", great 
book for learning beginning mapping skills. It weighs in at nearly 1000 
pages. How many chapters on UScript? None. How many mentions? One: Use the 
built in editor to modify code.

It's all just too much. Release an editor "lite" that a majority of people 
can use and if they need the more robust tools, let them use (and learn) the 
full editor.