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7 total messages Started by E.Triebsch Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:44
Thief: 4?
#36714
Author: E.Triebsch
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:44
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I haven't been here in a while taffers, but I was wondering if anyone has 
hinted at a 4th installment of the Thief Series? If not, perhaps this will 
spark some conversation or interest. I know T:DS kinda made the game come 
full circle. And, if it has, that is fine. But, that doesn't mean that the 
series can't go on. Perhaps along the lines that Garrett has decided to 
retire from actively pilfering from the populous. Instead, he could have set 
up a guild where a new generation of thieves are trained. Perhaps being able 
to choose your gender and inproving your skills at certain things. I think 
it would be interesting anyway. They definately need to bring back rope 
arrows, and the ability to swim....Just my two cents I guess.

Anyway, take care all! From the lazy taffer....

Lord Sin 
Re: Thief: 4?
#36715
Author: Cookie McCrumble
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:19
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"E.Triebsch" <e.triebsch@adelphia.net> wrote in message 
news:1fidnSuChff6MZTbnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@adelphia.com...
>I haven't been here in a while taffers, but I was wondering if anyone has 
>hinted at a 4th installment of the Thief Series? If not, perhaps this will 
>spark some conversation or interest. I know T:DS kinda made the game come 
>full circle. And, if it has, that is fine. But, that doesn't mean that the 
>series can't go on. Perhaps along the lines that Garrett has decided to 
>retire from actively pilfering from the populous. Instead, he could have 
>set up a guild where a new generation of thieves are trained. Perhaps being 
>able to choose your gender and inproving your skills at certain things. I 
>think it would be interesting anyway. They definately need to bring back 
>rope arrows, and the ability to swim....Just my two cents I guess.
>
> Anyway, take care all! From the lazy taffer....
>
> Lord Sin
>

I've not followed the news much but as far as I know there's been no word. 
Someone may correct me though.

And I agree with your thoughts about a more "rpg" style sequel. It would be 
a good way of taking the series further, but knowing that alot of the 
original talent behind the thief series may not be involved might mean the 
quality is far less. I say get Bethedsa to do it, the stealth approach of 
Oblivion was great. Another option is the Splinter Cell engine. The original 
Thief writers could probably do that quite well too. 
Re: Thief: 4?
#36716
Author: Fred X
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:48
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:44:41 +0100, E.Triebsch <e.triebsch@adelphia.net> wrote:

> I haven't been here in a while taffers, but I was wondering if anyone has
> hinted at a 4th installment of the Thief Series? If not, perhaps this will
> spark some conversation or interest. I know T:DS kinda made the game come
> full circle. And, if it has, that is fine. But, that doesn't mean that the
> series can't go on. Perhaps along the lines that Garrett has decided to
> retire from actively pilfering from the populous. Instead, he could have set
> up a guild where a new generation of thieves are trained. Perhaps being able
> to choose your gender and inproving your skills at certain things. I think
> it would be interesting anyway. They definately need to bring back rope
> arrows, and the ability to swim....Just my two cents I guess.
>
> Anyway, take care all! From the lazy taffer....
>

But did T:DS sell well enough to make a sequel economically viable, because
I remember it being heavily discounted fairly soon after being released. The
cost of making games is now so ridiculously high that you need them to be
a guaranteed big seller before any developer would even consider making a
sequel.

Fred X
Re: Thief: 4?
#36717
Author: J.H.
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:46
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Fred X wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:44:41 +0100, E.Triebsch <e.triebsch@adelphia.net> wrote:
> 
>> I haven't been here in a while taffers, but I was wondering if anyone has
>> hinted at a 4th installment of the Thief Series? If not, perhaps this will
>> spark some conversation or interest. I know T:DS kinda made the game come
>> full circle. And, if it has, that is fine. But, that doesn't mean that the
>> series can't go on. Perhaps along the lines that Garrett has decided to
>> retire from actively pilfering from the populous. Instead, he could have set
>> up a guild where a new generation of thieves are trained. Perhaps being able
>> to choose your gender and inproving your skills at certain things. I think
>> it would be interesting anyway. They definately need to bring back rope
>> arrows, and the ability to swim....Just my two cents I guess.
>>
>> Anyway, take care all! From the lazy taffer....
>>
> 
> But did T:DS sell well enough to make a sequel economically viable, because
> I remember it being heavily discounted fairly soon after being released. The
> cost of making games is now so ridiculously high that you need them to be
> a guaranteed big seller before any developer would even consider making a
> sequel.
> 
> Fred X
I would certainly hope they do not try to make a sequel.  They damaged 
the game so completely with 3 that it's pretty much irrecoverable. 
Destroying the illusion of playing AS Garrett with 3rd person 
perspective, lack of rope arrows, complete lack of atmosphere or a sense 
of purpose (aka - bad plot, poor locations, incredibly low character 
involvement).....i could go on...

T2 fan missions have proven to be much better than T:DS could ever hope 
to be and as long as that keeps up there isn't much need for a new game 
anyway.

All good things must come to an end.
Re: Thief: 4?
#36718
Author: Eric Peterson
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:07
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"J.H." <justaguyhanginout@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:PbcQh.37260$__3.36275@edtnps90...
> Fred X wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:44:41 +0100, E.Triebsch <e.triebsch@adelphia.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't been here in a while taffers, but I was wondering if anyone 
>>> has
>>> hinted at a 4th installment of the Thief Series? If not, perhaps this 
>>> will
>>> spark some conversation or interest. I know T:DS kinda made the game 
>>> come
>>> full circle. And, if it has, that is fine. But, that doesn't mean that 
>>> the
>>> series can't go on. Perhaps along the lines that Garrett has decided to
>>> retire from actively pilfering from the populous. Instead, he could have 
>>> set
>>> up a guild where a new generation of thieves are trained. Perhaps being 
>>> able
>>> to choose your gender and inproving your skills at certain things. I 
>>> think
>>> it would be interesting anyway. They definately need to bring back rope
>>> arrows, and the ability to swim....Just my two cents I guess.
>>>
>>> Anyway, take care all! From the lazy taffer....
>>>
>>
>> But did T:DS sell well enough to make a sequel economically viable, 
>> because
>> I remember it being heavily discounted fairly soon after being released. 
>> The
>> cost of making games is now so ridiculously high that you need them to be
>> a guaranteed big seller before any developer would even consider making a
>> sequel.
>>
>> Fred X
> I would certainly hope they do not try to make a sequel.  They damaged the 
> game so completely with 3 that it's pretty much irrecoverable. Destroying 
> the illusion of playing AS Garrett with 3rd person perspective, lack of 
> rope arrows, complete lack of atmosphere or a sense of purpose (aka - bad 
> plot, poor locations, incredibly low character involvement).....i could go 
> on...
>
> T2 fan missions have proven to be much better than T:DS could ever hope to 
> be and as long as that keeps up there isn't much need for a new game 
> anyway.
>
> All good things must come to an end.

I would like to see Thief 4 - but only if the game returned to its roots. 
i.e: better plot and atmosphere, rope arrows and swimming, etc. I'm not 
holding my breath.

What may be more realistic would be a new campaign by the authors of T2X. 
Given the quality of their first release (yes, it has flaws, but it's still 
pretty good) I would be willing to pay for a sequel.

EFP
Re: Thief: 4?
#36719
Author: Albert Conklin
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:33
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Eric Peterson wrote:
> "J.H." <justaguyhanginout@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:PbcQh.37260$__3.36275@edtnps90...
>> Fred X wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:44:41 +0100, E.Triebsch <e.triebsch@adelphia.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't been here in a while taffers, but I was wondering if anyone 
>>>> has
>>>> hinted at a 4th installment of the Thief Series? If not, perhaps this 
>>>> will
>>>> spark some conversation or interest. I know T:DS kinda made the game 
>>>> come
>>>> full circle. And, if it has, that is fine. But, that doesn't mean that 
>>>> the
>>>> series can't go on. Perhaps along the lines that Garrett has decided to
>>>> retire from actively pilfering from the populous. Instead, he could have 
>>>> set
>>>> up a guild where a new generation of thieves are trained. Perhaps being 
>>>> able
>>>> to choose your gender and inproving your skills at certain things. I 
>>>> think
>>>> it would be interesting anyway. They definately need to bring back rope
>>>> arrows, and the ability to swim....Just my two cents I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, take care all! From the lazy taffer....
>>>>
>>> But did T:DS sell well enough to make a sequel economically viable, 
>>> because
>>> I remember it being heavily discounted fairly soon after being released. 
>>> The
>>> cost of making games is now so ridiculously high that you need them to be
>>> a guaranteed big seller before any developer would even consider making a
>>> sequel.
>>>
>>> Fred X
>> I would certainly hope they do not try to make a sequel.  They damaged the 
>> game so completely with 3 that it's pretty much irrecoverable. Destroying 
>> the illusion of playing AS Garrett with 3rd person perspective, lack of 
>> rope arrows, complete lack of atmosphere or a sense of purpose (aka - bad 
>> plot, poor locations, incredibly low character involvement).....i could go 
>> on...
>>
>> T2 fan missions have proven to be much better than T:DS could ever hope to 
>> be and as long as that keeps up there isn't much need for a new game 
>> anyway.
>>
>> All good things must come to an end.
> 
> I would like to see Thief 4 - but only if the game returned to its roots. 
> i.e: better plot and atmosphere, rope arrows and swimming, etc. I'm not 
> holding my breath.
> 
> What may be more realistic would be a new campaign by the authors of T2X. 
> Given the quality of their first release (yes, it has flaws, but it's still 
> pretty good) I would be willing to pay for a sequel.
> 
> EFP
> 
> 
  I agree. Go back to a sequel to 2 and forget about 3. Just like the 
Halloween movies. Forget 3 existed and get back on track.
Albert
Re: Thief: 4?
#36720
Author: B. Hoffmann
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 00:39
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:07:13 +0100, Eric Peterson <epeterson@mts.net>  
wrote:

>
> I would like to see Thief 4 - but only if the game returned to its roots.
> i.e: better plot and atmosphere, rope arrows and swimming, etc. I'm not
> holding my breath.
>
> What may be more realistic would be a new campaign by the authors of T2X.
> Given the quality of their first release (yes, it has flaws, but it's  
> still
> pretty good) I would be willing to pay for a sequel.
>
> EFP
>
>

Well, there'll be something called The Dark Mod, that will be Thief 4 for  
me. Basically fan made missions using the Doom3 engine. Maybe we'll see  
something similar in scope to T2x popping up. Would love that.


-- 
Kind Regards,
B. Hoffmann

Ash: I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.  
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0078748/quotes
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