🚀 go-pugleaf

Don't matter.

Either way he'll NEVER convince his
girl friend that it ain't the dog's poo poo.

Poor guy's gonna make the girl jealHOWES.

Then he's HISTORY.

Perhaps he could turn poison into medecine
if he sez it's a SURPRISE for her to enjoy sharin
with the dog.

Then he could throw her to the grHOWEND an
climb all over her like a raped ape and grHOWEL
into her throat an bite her on the ear and thrHOWE
her in a box and jerk and choke her on a pronged
spiked pinch choke collar and spray aversives into
her eyes.

Like this:

  lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
  For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
  pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.
  When he barks, use the line for a correction.

 - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

  Lynn K.

She'll LOVE you for it:

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

But if she don't go for that don't worry if she escapes,
the shock collar restraint system will kick in and she'll
never leave.

Unless it fails as it often does. But not to worry. If
she calls the cops all he gotta do is DENY IT and
they'll NEVER believe her.

Just PRAY she's callin from a phone booth nearbye.
You'll be able to run her dHOWEN and CONvince her
you was only PLAYIN:

sinofabitch writes:
> >> What I have said- repeatedly - is that he took
> >> posts from two different people,
> >> took pieces of them out of context,
> >> cobbled them together,
> >> then added his own words:

"Neatly," and "Smartly."

> >>and a fake signature.

"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach.

> >> Which is exactly what he did.
> >> The actual quote is misleading
> >> when taken out of context, and Jerry's
> >> faked "quote" is downright meaningless.
>
> >Here's Jerry's version
>
> >   "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
> >    Right Arm  Over The Lab's Shoulder,
> >    Grabbed Her Opposite  Foot With My
> >    Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
> >    Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
> >    Her Throat  And Said "GRRRR!" And
> >    Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch.
>
> >Here's yours;
>
> >   "I dropped the leash, threw my
> >   right arm over the Lab's shoulder,
> >   grabbed her opposite foot with my
> >   left hand, rolled her on her side,
> >   leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and
> >   nipped her ear.
> >   --Sara Sionnach

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

"When you get bagged for lying you're MARKED
FOR LIFE," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY.

BWEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkos...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

ging...@my-deja.com wrote:
>  How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong  - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.  Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog.   I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use.   Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars.  At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8)  Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog.   I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation.   Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag.   (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

> Other training systems seem to be more transferable
> in the success rate of others who use it.


Paxil Princess psychoclown wrote:

"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

"Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them more
sharply.

REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG.

Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of
as force-fetching: the ear pinch.

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that
resisting your will fades in importance.

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to
escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch
the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth,
get out the shotshell.

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the
collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the
dog will give in

With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'

Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick.

Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy.
You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your
thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips
and pinching its ear."

> Good trainers have their hands full enough training.


"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing.  He didn't even blink an eye.
>
> Janet Boss

"sionnach" <rhyf...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@mb-m17.aol.com...
>
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

> I would not expect them to start experimenting
> without some objective evidence that the time
> invested in the experiment will bear fruit.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.)  But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.


"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake.  I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.


 Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
news:<04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>...

> >> Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
> >> quotes are true.
>
> >> In the posts below you take responsibility for
> >> making those calls.
>
> >> In your post above, you state you do not
> >> make those calls.
>
> >>Which one is it?


"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???


"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."-
           - mike duforth, author:
             "Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and
CRINGING is COURTEHOWES?


"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
 professora gingold.

        "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
        Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
        With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
        discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.


"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the
whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and
won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some
dogs.

Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but w        e'vecomealongwaysincethen.Shetrusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.

Is it time for that?

What might I look for to tell?"

"Julia Altshuler" <jalts...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...
>
> After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
> Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
> is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
> keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
> up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
> and the vet agrees.
>
> --Lia

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!


Here's your pal FRAUDreck:

http://tinyurl.com/389al
In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

Here's a other:
http://tinyurl.com/2v9oh

> I wouldn't expect you to just stop using
> that method and try something else on
> the mere claim that the something else
> was superior.

You mean superior to choking shocking
intimidating and murdering dogs, Master
Of Deception blankman?

Your punk thug coward metally ill pals
can't even train their dogs to stay behind
their shock fences and not to eat poison
and murder their own HOWES kats.

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
 <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
news:jh1si01nmadped1ek3sk88eo7jk49vsh1e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:25:35 -0400, Gactimus <gact...@xrs.net>
wrote
> in alt.tasteless.jokes in message
<Xns95516B2123DCPQ@alaska.local>:
>
> >This is real embarassing.

Well there ain't nuthin to be embarrassed
abHOWET amongst FRIENDS.

> > I am going on a date tonight and I thought
> > I better try on some condoms to be sure I got
> > the right ones.

Good idea. WON always wants to put their
best foot forward.  'You can never make a
second first impression.'

> > I put one on my dick and just then my dog
> > came into the room and began licking me.

You probably shouldn't allHOWE that.

> >  That got me so aroused that I got a huge erection.

Well perhaps you need a spankin?


Sexual Abuse And Dog Training Go
Together Like A Child And Paddle

From: polara (lar...@muchomail.com)
Subject: Was: Girls' stirrings, now: Mother's doubts
Newsgroups: soc.sexuality.spanking
Date: 2004-04-13 06:51:18 PST

in a message responding to Polara's answer to Paul Mera's
question about spanko girls' fantasies etc:

"ayla" <ayla...@hotpopidiotproof.com> wrote

| I had fantasies just like that on my walks home from school,
| as well as in my room at night. However, I did *not*
| baby-sit for anyone cool enough to have "O" on their
| bookshelf. Makes me determined to have my books in a public,
| inconspicuous place for my babysitters to find if they need
| it. And, my kids too.
|
| Thank you for sharing this, it's nice to know I'm not the
| only one. :-)
|
| ayla

You're welcome! You're not the only one!

I agree with you about making the books discreetly available
to the youngsters. But I feel it's a fine line to tread.
I gave my kid "Sex for Dummies" when he was 13, because his
school did not have any kind of Sex Ed, no matter what
euphemism you name it with. I didn't have any trouble telling
him what I felt he needed to know, or answering what he wanted
to know, at any age so far - he's 18 now, and as far as I can
tell, done asking.

But I haven't talked to him about my favourite kink. (Though
since I know he digs through my bedside bookshelf at will,
he's probably realised my collection is pretty skewed.)

Why not? I have to admit I haven't made a well-considered
decision. It just seemed like "more than he probably wants or
needs to know." It's no secret, and if he asked me, "Mom are
you really into getting spanked/spanking?" I'd tell him "Yes,
I think it's sexy and fun."

Would you tell your own kids or others about liking spanking?

I also keep my precious spanking videos under lock and key.
Why? Since I'm willing to let the books be "found"? Darned if
I know, but again it feels like its more than I want him to be
exposed to through ME.  Maybe it's my personal interpretation
of the incest taboo. If he wants to rustle up his own spanking
video and watch it on my machine in my house, fine. But if he
gets it from me...not fine. Show me where it says I have to be
consistent.

Anybody else got an opinion on this?

Polara

HOWEDY laura,

"polara" <lar...@muchomail.com> wrote in message
news:Dblkc.10786$EV2.97520@amstwist00...
>
> "Marie" <mm...@rogers.com> wrote
>
> <snip>
>
> |  It turns out that her main concern isn't bowling
> | alleys or bus yard offices, it is lawns and parks grass.
>
> Over here we're getting more warnings that
> raising kids in an overly clean environment
> seems to lead to more asthma/allergy.

INDEED.

> My breeder's grandkids

Your "ETHICKAL breeder" sold you a
REPLACEMENT dog after you MURDERED
your own DEAD DOG Chewie CAUSE YOU
WOULDN'T STOP HURTIN and INTIMIDATING
HIM.

> Laura and Angel in Oslo.

HOWEDY laura,

"Laura" <la...@wordfixers.no> wrote in message
news:QLiZb.936$EV2.7231@amstwist00...
> Diana wrote:

diana is a dog abuser a liar and a mental case.

Like yourself.

> | > if other areas of his obedience are going well,
> | > use that to help you break this habit - if he's
> | > busy performing a command for you, he won't
> | > be busy barking for you.

Yeah. That'll provoke the dog to do it MOORE
cause it'll REWARD his attention gettin devices.

> Lee John Moore wrote:
> | I've tried this too, but have no success.

That's cause lee is a MOOREON.

> |  He performs the command but continues to bark.

SEE??? Told ya so!

> Since he's a smart and obedient dog,

Yeah. Smart, obedient, Feisty, Humorous, Brave,
Curious And Playful. Full Of "Joie de Vivre,"

>  perhaps you could give him a command

Like the DIE command, laura?

> that precludes barking?

Oh? You must mean the "NO BARK!" command.
Won't work on this Feisty, Humorous, Brave,
Curious And Playful. Full Of "Joie de Vivre, dog.

> Perhaps teach him to sit and hold an object for
> you - dumbbell, glove, rolled newspaper, ball -

Yeah. That'll make him very happy. He WANTS
attention, and that'd be payin him off.

> you could simply carry an item like this in your
> pocket when you go out.

RIGHT. That COULD work... till WON fine
day when IT don't have sumpthin to put in
ITS MHOWETH and then he'll GO NUTS.

>  And then Sit! Hold! would produce the
> desired behaviour?

Yeah. Like it did for your DEAD DOG Chewie.

> Just a thought...

Yeah. That's HOWE COME you MUREDERED
your own DEAD DOG Chewie.

> Laura and Angel in Oslo

laura MURDERED her heart dog Chewie just like
HOWE your pal tara o. did her DEAD DOG Summer
as have many of HOWER DOG LOVERS here abHOWETS.

Here's HOWE COME laura KILLED her dog Chewie:

From: Laura Arlov (la...@wordfixers.no)
Subject: Re: Chewie bit my husband !

Date: 1999/01/20

Well, we're doing as you say Dogman,
and I'll keep you all posted.

------------------------------

> Laura in Oslo

You're quite the dog enthusiast, eh laura?

> The listener,

You didn't WANT to listen to The Puppy Wizard when
HE told you you couldn't PUNISH and INTIMIDATE
your dog or you'd make IT aggressive.

> the observer.

NHOWE you got a DEAD DOG HOWETA it.

>  We do work were you sometimes have to observe people

Like laura, MURDERING her dog...

> and take notes.

INDEEDY!

> B. has amazing powers of observation and concentration.

RIGHT...

> Laura and Angel in Oslo

"Feisty, Humorous, Brave, Curious And
Playful. Full Of "Joie de Vivre," And DEAD.

Date: 2003-10-29 23:49:52 PST

HOWEDY People,

Here's HOWE COME laura arlov KILLED her "Feisty,
Humorous, Brave, Curious And Playful.  Full Of "Joie
de Vivre," And DEAD DOG Chewie:

From: Dogman (dog...@i1.net)
Subject: Re: Dogman advocates dogs biting people
Date: 1999/04/25

While I was listening to the Miles Davis CD, "Kind Of
Blue," and drinking a little Booker's, on 24 Apr 1999
22:47:09 GMT, broke...@aol.com (Brokenseat) wrote:

> Was that a SERIOUS ENOUGH bite for you dogman,
> or was it insignificant? Why would you suggest getting
> a book or obediance, is there no bite SERIOUS enough
> for you?

Yes, there are, but this one was *caused* by the actions
of a very, very STUPID human being, someone much like
yourself.

And it only hapopened ONCE.

And there are many, many dogs out there today
living perfectly normal and honorable lives who,
upon having done to them what was done to
this dog ("Chewie"), would also bite.

I mean, how stupid can one person get?

Don't answer that yet, Broke, you're setting a new
record almost everyday.

Here's what the owner's husband did (and precisely
what caused the bite), just in case you forgot:

> (My husband was holding Chewie's head and looking
> him in the eye and yelling at him, and Chewie growled
> louder and louder and louder and then bit my husband.)

I wonder just how many dogs out there wouldn't at
least be tempted to bite some stupid idiot for doing
that to him?

I include below the entire post for viewers reading
pleasure, and so they can take everything I said in
its proper *context.*

PS:  I'd be willing to wager a large amount of money
that this particular dog will never bite this guy again,
provided:

1.)  The family gives this dog some OBEDIENCE training.

2.)  The guy refrains from doing really STUPID things to the dog.

3.)  The guy PARTICIPATES in the training.

4.)  They have a professional ASSESS the dog.

Putting this dog down simply for doing the above is
UNCONSCIONABLE.

This dog needs to be assessed, in person, by a knowledgeable
trainer/behaviorist before any action is even considered.

>>>>Now yesterday morning, Chewie lost his temper with my
>>>>husband and bit him, hard. (Deep puncture, lots of blood,
>>>>docot visit, tetanus shot, antibiotics, the whole shooting
>>>>match)
>>>Dogman's words of wisdom:
>>> You need to get a book on recognizing animal
>>> behavior ***(I have some listed on my web site)***,
>>> and you need to get your husband (and children, if
>>> they're old enough) involved in the OBEDIENCE
>>> training of this dog.
>>> WRONG. You need to cull. Do not give that dog a
>>> second chance to bite someone and draw blood
>>> another time, like your childs face...
>>>Broke Egoman and his dangerous advice should be ignored.

Doofuses are always welcome to ignore my advice,
after all, that's why they remain doofuses, eh?

********************

Beginning of the actual post, before Broke selectively snipped:

Upon my return to the Cuckoo's Nest,
Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:22:09 ?,

"Laura Arlov" <la...@wordfixers.no> says:

[...]
>We have an 18 month old male Airedale Terrier,
>Chewbacca (Chewie). He's entire -- and I might as well
>tell you right now it's not legal to neuter male dogs in
>Norway for anything other than medical reasons, so he'll
> probably be staying that way.

That's too bad, because neutering might help (of course,
it might not help, either).

FYI, 95% of stallions (horses) in America are neutered.

That's right, only 5% of horses are responsible for breeding.

Why?

Have you ever been on a ranch or farm where there
were a lot of stallions living together?

If you had, you'd understand why 95% of them get
their *tools* taken away at an early age!

The same thing goes for dogs to a great extent.

>Now yesterday morning, Chewie lost his temper with my
>husband and bit him, hard. (Deep puncture, lots of blood,
>docot visit, tetanus shot, antibiotics, the whole shooting match)
>
>I have no trouble seeing how this incident is a result
>of Chewie's age and hormones, and mistakes that we
>have made.
>
> He's our first dog. before we got him I read that Airedale
> males could be a pretty tough proposition, so I've been
> working actively with Chewie and settring limits for him
> all his life, and he respects me.

But he doesn't respect your hubbie, does he?
Otherwise  this would never have happened.

You're right, Airedales are TOUGH dogs, just like
virtually any *terrier.*

>My son and husband mostly pet him and play with him.

That's part of your problem I think.  Your husband has
fallen in the pecking order to an EQUAL.  That is, your
dog sees your husband as an equal, perhaps even an
inferior, and that's what the growling, etc., were all about.

> Now that Chewie is trying to improve his position
> in our family flock by defying my husband, my husband
> is all of the sudden trying to put his foot down and discipline
> Chewie...

This putting-down-of-the-foot cannot take place quickly.
It will have to develop over time.

But the best way to accelerate it is to have your husband
start to take over the OBEDIENCE training of your dog,
and he needs a lot more of it, Laura.

No dog of mine would ever even think about growling
at me, much less ever bite me.  Or any member of my
family, the dog's pack.

Because I've made them all realize, early on, that all
humans are higher in status to them.

And their OBEDIENCE training is *ongoing,* therefore
it's constantly reinforced.

Dogs ABHOR leadership vacuums!

> (My husband was holding Chewie's head and looking
> him in the eye and yelling at him, and Chewie growled
> louder and louder and louder and then bit my husband.)

You need to get a book on recognizing animal behavior
(I have some listed on my web site), and you need to get
your husband (and children, if they're old enough) involved
in the OBEDIENCE training of this dog.

Otherwise you're likely to have *much* more serious
problems down the road.

> So, we did exactly what the experts on this ng usually
> advise: we called a really good dog training organization
> (where Chewie and I did basic training) and they will be
> sending one or maybe two instructors to observe as all
> at home, help us to understand our dog, and help us with
> home routines and training to straighten this out.

This will really help, I'm sure.  They'll want to observe
and understand your pack's "dynamics."

Then they can show you some things that will allow
your husband to assume a more dominant role in the
dog's pack.

> While we're waiting for our first appointment, we're
> supposed to write down our own impressions of Chewie's
> behavior both around the bite and otherwise. And it is clear
> that he feels he came out of the encounter "a bigger man."

You bet.  That's why an ounce of PREVENTION is
always worth a pound of CURE.

Especially when it comes to reinforcement of canine behavior.

> Yesterday and today he has gone nuts in the backseat
> of the car when somebody walked by with a male dog...
> and when he pees, he lifts his leg so high he fell over
> twice today.

Yup.  This dog needs some intensive OBEDIENCE
training, in my opinion.

But it usually takes an on-site OBSERVATION to
make an accurate assessment of your situation.

> I feel pretty badly about this...sad, I guess. He's a
> great little dog.

He's not so "little," eh?

> Feisty, humorous, brave, curious and playful. Full of
> "joie de vivre" Not outstandlingly intelligent, but shrewd.
> Charming, when he wants to be.  I feel like he's really
> blotted his copy books seriously, and I sure see how a
> lot of the responsibility for this is ours.

You're got the right attitude, Laura.  Almost all canine behavior
"problems" are created (and reinforced) by us humans.

>Stay tuned, and see how it goes as we try to straighten out this
>dog -- and, maybe more importantly, his owners!

I will, and I hope you will, indeed, let us know how this works
out!

Good luck!

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"One four minute session of obedience work,
done properly, will prevent behavior problems
for 48-72 hours. It's in the manual."
                    Jerry "Moonbeam" Howe

> > So huge that I cant get the condom off now.

Think physics. There's a solution in there.

> > Worse yet, the condom is full of dog shit

HOWE did that happen?

> > and my date will be ariving any second.

S-HOWENDS like she's gonna catch you
'fragrante delicto,' gactimus.

> > What should I do?

Pehaps you can hide it?

> Is your dick long enough to reach your asshole?

Good idea MonkeyBoy.

> V.G.

VBWEG.

> Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.


    "The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
                             may acquire those rights
         which never could have been withholden from them
                            but by the hand of tyranny.
                 The question is not can they REASON,
                               nor can they TALK,
                           but can they SUFFER?"  -
                               - Jeremy Bentham

              "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
                       for the good of its victims,
                    may be the most oppressive.
           Those who torment us for our own good
                     will torment us without end,
                for they do so with the approval of
                        their own conscience." -
                               - C.S. Lewis.

            "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
                      Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
                                Agamemnon.