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"Byers ex machina" <don't@think.so> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:54:39 +0800, "Steven Ung"
> <ste...@nodomainname.com> wrote:
>
>>> Yeah well, rarely does an enemy army not consist of some kind of heavy
>>> melee units...
>>
>>Yeah but what I'm trying to say is that we might need to change our
>>build/plan/strategy if we spot otherwise.
>
> Haven't we?

Very unlikely in mid game.

>>> Yeah well, the alternative is footmen, so I have to rush to Knights. I
>>> can get to Castle pretty fast if I set my mind to it.  :P
>>
>>IMO, for pumping footmen, one barrack is enough but keep pumping non-stop.
>>Pop in the second barrack when you're teching to castle. By getting the
>>second barrack early, you're actually delaying the production of knights
>>(which is your main objective). Well, make your own judgement.
>
> I'm doing no such thing. I'm pumping from one rax while I'm getting
> the other, believe you me.

Aight

> And I'm also pumping non-stop as it is,
> from two rax, and that's barely enough...

Well, if you think that is best I don't have any problem with it. Like I've 
said earlier, this is open for discussion to find the optimum 
methods/strategies and there is no right or wrong.

> And I need to get the rax sooner or later anyway, before my castle
> arrives, so I might as well get it earlier when it's useful to have it
> (easier to protect against early-ish attacks when I can get
> reinforcements faster).
> With Orc, one barracks is enough, but with human, doing a melee build,
> the footmen are just too weak.

If footmen are weak, why do we always get creamed vs 2 human players? :p

>>> And the point is that, with your build, the only sensible thing for me
>>> to do is to go heavy melee. You're getting ranged and casters, if I
>>> get casters as well all we've got for melee is the puny number of
>>> footmen I'll be able to crank out of one barracks. Our front line will
>>> get creamed, and out casters will be left standing around healing
>>> themselves and generally looking very uncomfortable.
>>
>>Depends. The more you get creamed at the front line, the more skellys I 
>>can
>>generate. *Burst into evil laughter*
>
> Well, you don't always make skellys...Usually you get fiends and
> stats...

... and aboms and frosties :p

That's because skellys are weak and generally, people are paraniod of 
skellys and takes precaution against any UD player. One sign of the 
necromancer building, and you can expect lots of anti-skelly units. Of 
course, at times, I purposely let them think I'm going skellys, but I get 
anti-anti priest.

<snip>

>>I thought by typing "Back" or "B" was enough of a signal to TP out.
>>Apparently not. So, next time I'll type "Hey Byers, can we just get the 
>>F***
>>outta here? My units are getting squashed like mash potatoes in a grinder.
>>What?! You don't have TP? Shit! Well if you die, I die (like Titanic, you
>>jump I jump)"
>
> *LOL*
> That sounds more like it...
>
> And anyway, it's not always as easy to retreat when your units (and
> hero) are surrounded by enemy melee units, and half of them gets
> killed by ranged attacks while fleeing.

At times, that is much better choice to do than getting creamed. For 
example, whilst creeping alone, 2 enemies found. Also, never ever run out of 
TP. :)

>>> Bah.
>>
>>Whilst upgrading to castle, you can get 2~4 priest or 1~2 sorcerer for 
>>slow
>>but not autocast. Cast slow on units that deserve it. (Slow is really good
>>vs Orcs).
>
> Uh huh, so I'm supposed to buy 10 units and 4 upgrades from a single
> building? We better have all day then... And getting several arcane
> thingmagigs will interfere with my ability to crank out Knights...

Just one arcane (Chas?) building will do and pump out the units one by one. 
Consider getting the priest/sorc as your secondary objective.
-- 
Steven Ung
"The source of all greatness lies within you" - Anonymous