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I think Q3 and DNF will both have their own merits.
DNF will probably be better though, because it will rule in single player
and multiplayer, and you won't need a beast machine to run it.

Chippy wrote in message <7aopl7$4n6$1...@infoserv.netkonect.net>...
>I spent a long time writing that message and then it gets cancelled!!
>

What are you talking about. You posted it a couple of weeks ago.

>The other messages were talking about the GRAPHICS....
>
>Okay Duke3D was sprite based but so was Doom.... Did Doom have an
>"interactive environment"?

In so far as "hit a button and something happens" then yes. How was Duke any
different ?

>I think not..... DNForever will be far better
>than any other game I've seen because it uses the Firestorm ( Unreal )
>engine which has insanely brilliant graphics and it is well themed unlike
>Quake or Unreal ( one minute your in Military looking places the next your
>in Medieval places or space stations )
>

1. How can an engine be well themed  ?

2. Unreal's engine was a badly coded pile of shite. Considering what it is
doing, it should be able to run well on a Pentium II 233 with a half descent
graphics setup. You should not need a PII 450 with 128 meg + 12 meg graphics &
3d cards to be able to run it in 800*600 with no slowdown on the hard setting.

>So yes we know what we are talking about..... Q3 will offer good lighting
>effects and FOG.... I've seen fog in Ultim@te race and Turok 2 ( I admit
>this was very bad with building suddenly APPEARING ) but will that be any
>good in Multiplayer?
>
>Q3 will have Melee weapons in it and is badly themed.... you dont need to
>worry about that in Multiplayer but still it helps to make it more
>realistic...
>
If you don't have to worry about the theme in a multiplayer game, then why
should it help to make it more realistic ?

Sorry about having a dig at your post dude, but Unreal really pissed me off.
After 2+ years of developement, it should have been a hell of a lot better.

Dylan.

Chippy wrote in message <7aopl7$4n6$1...@infoserv.netkonect.net>...
>I spent a long time writing that message and then it gets cancelled!!
>
>The other messages were talking about the GRAPHICS....
>
>Okay Duke3D was sprite based but so was Doom....

We all believe you DukeN3D was a real crap!, not only because of the
tasteless plot but also of a rubish engine;
.....
The only thing, I like from DN was a bunch of colours and some cool
stuff.....(sometimes not very...)

Duke 4 ever will have nice plot and stuff, but the Engine (which one don't
no yet: Q2's or Unreal's?!?) would be absolete at the time game
arrives.(comparing to Q3's !!!!!!!!!!!!)


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In article <7aperh$6bm$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Michael V"
<mic...@extf.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Duke 4 ever will have nice plot and stuff, but the Engine (which one don't
> no yet: Q2's or Unreal's?!?) would be absolete at the time game
> arrives.(comparing to Q3's !!!!!!!!!!!!)

They've already decided on the Unreal engine and have publicly stated it
numerous times (one of the very things they'll say about the game).

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>We all believe you DukeN3D was a real crap!, not only because of the
>tasteless plot but also of a rubish engine;


Have you actually played Duke Nukem 3D

Name one other game that had a truly interactive environment and I'll agree
with you......

In alt.games.quake3, Chippy wrote:
> Name one other game that had a truly interactive environment and I'll agree
> with you......

But what does 'truly interactive' mean? I could say that The Hobbit 
(ancient text adventure) had a truly interactive environment because you 
could travel to lots of places and pick up lots of objects. In DN3D you 
can just manipulate more objects/scenery than in most other games.

On a similar subject, did anyone see the level on Sin which had a valve, 
and there was a sign saying "Do not play with valvE". If you pressed the 
valve, the room exploded :)

-- 
Andrew Gillett       http://argnet.fatal-design.com/      ICQ: See homepage
You will meet a tall dark stranger. Unfortunately he's holding a large gun.
Run for it!

>If you don't have to worry about the theme in a multiplayer game, then why
>should it help to make it more realistic ?
I think he means with things like Actionquake.
-- 
Goliath

In article <7as8tk$1tv$1...@infoserv.netkonect.net>, Chippy
<st...@tinca.netkonect.co.uk> writes
>Name one other game that had a truly interactive environment and I'll agree
>with you......
>
>
Half-life has easily the most interactive enviroment I've ever seen in a
fps (yes I have played Duke). You get to operate soft drinks machines,
gun turrets (firing and directing them), microwaves, dryers, break
open/push crates, drive trains (including controlling speed and
direction), as well as all the standard buttons, lifts, light switches,
etc. Also, you can get NPCs to follow and/or help you, and you can (at
one point) launch a space rocket. That's pretty damn interactive as far
as I'm concerned :) 
-- 
Goliath