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"John" <address@server.com> wrote in message 
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> Hey all!
>
> I'm looking to get myself an LCD monitor, at least 19", as well as a new 
> vidcard that supports DVI (prolly some BFG NVidia).
>
> Are there any LCDs that are better than others when it comes to games like 
> Quake, CS, etc.?
>
> What particular specs should I be looking for?  (such as: pitch, contrast 
> ratio, resp. time, etc.)
>

In the end, it will be a choice made from what YOU like in what you are 
seeing ON it.   I have a pair of Samsung Syncmaster 930B monitors running on 
this rig right now.  They are both on the DVI ports of one of my 2 
7800GTX's.  One is six months older than the other.  The picture is slightly 
different between them.
What I saw and wanted when I got one:
High contrast and bright level.  There are better ones today for the same 
money.
  Look for the depth of blackness, that is important too.  Look for it being 
8 bits per pixel rather than 6 as these are.  That really shows up in the 
smoothness of dark areas.  Speed, 16 ms response time or less, for gaming 
and movie watching.   slower response times give you ghosting or motion 
blur.  there are a LOT of good ones to choose from, in many brands.  And for 
a gamer, look for the higher resolution.  Greater than 1280x1024.
Enjoy hunting!
McG. 

On 4/2/2006 5:41 AM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
> "John" <address@server.com> wrote in message 
> news:2ViWf.63710$9I5.16923@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>   
>> Hey all!
>>
>> I'm looking to get myself an LCD monitor, at least 19", as well as a new 
>> vidcard that supports DVI (prolly some BFG NVidia).
>>
>> Are there any LCDs that are better than others when it comes to games like 
>> Quake, CS, etc.?
>>
>> What particular specs should I be looking for?  (such as: pitch, contrast 
>> ratio, resp. time, etc.)
>>
>>     
>
> In the end, it will be a choice made from what YOU like in what you are 
> seeing ON it.   I have a pair of Samsung Syncmaster 930B monitors running on 
> this rig right now.  They are both on the DVI ports of one of my 2 
> 7800GTX's.  One is six months older than the other.  The picture is slightly 
> different between them.
> What I saw and wanted when I got one:
> High contrast and bright level.  There are better ones today for the same 
> money.
>   Look for the depth of blackness, that is important too.  Look for it being 
> 8 bits per pixel rather than 6 as these are.  That really shows up in the 
> smoothness of dark areas.  Speed, 16 ms response time or less, for gaming 
> and movie watching.   slower response times give you ghosting or motion 
> blur.  there are a LOT of good ones to choose from, in many brands.  And for 
> a gamer, look for the higher resolution.  Greater than 1280x1024.
> Enjoy hunting!
> McG. 
>
>
>   
I never really thought about that "depth of blackness" part.  That's one 
thing on my Sony LCD, playing a dark game like Doom 3, sometimes it 
looked a little off.  There's wasn't a real dark black, the absence of 
color was more a deep gray.

How you enjoying Oblivion McG?  I could never get into Morrowind, but I 
spent close to 4 hours making my way to Kvatch today.

-- 
Cthulhu for President in 2008. Why vote for a lesser evil?

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

I have a Samsung 204b(20") which has a
5 ms response time.
Plus it's native resolution is 1600x1200.
My daughter has a 930b but the 204 has a far better picture.

"John" <address@server.com> wrote in message 
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> Hey all!
>
> I'm looking to get myself an LCD monitor, at least 19", as well as a new 
> vidcard that supports DVI (prolly some BFG NVidia).
>
> Are there any LCDs that are better than others when it comes to games like 
> Quake, CS, etc.?
>
> What particular specs should I be looking for?  (such as: pitch, contrast 
> ratio, resp. time, etc.)
> 

"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message 
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> On 4/2/2006 5:41 AM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>> "John" <address@server.com> wrote in message 
>> news:2ViWf.63710$9I5.16923@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>>
>>> Hey all!
>>>
>>> I'm looking to get myself an LCD monitor, at least 19", as well as a new 
>>> vidcard that supports DVI (prolly some BFG NVidia).
>>>
>>> Are there any LCDs that are better than others when it comes to games 
>>> like Quake, CS, etc.?
>>>
>>> What particular specs should I be looking for?  (such as: pitch, 
>>> contrast ratio, resp. time, etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> In the end, it will be a choice made from what YOU like in what you are 
>> seeing ON it.   I have a pair of Samsung Syncmaster 930B monitors running 
>> on this rig right now.  They are both on the DVI ports of one of my 2 
>> 7800GTX's.  One is six months older than the other.  The picture is 
>> slightly different between them.
>> What I saw and wanted when I got one:
>> High contrast and bright level.  There are better ones today for the same 
>> money.
>>   Look for the depth of blackness, that is important too.  Look for it 
>> being 8 bits per pixel rather than 6 as these are.  That really shows up 
>> in the smoothness of dark areas.  Speed, 16 ms response time or less, for 
>> gaming and movie watching.   slower response times give you ghosting or 
>> motion blur.  there are a LOT of good ones to choose from, in many 
>> brands.  And for a gamer, look for the higher resolution.  Greater than 
>> 1280x1024.
>> Enjoy hunting!
>> McG.
>>
>>
> I never really thought about that "depth of blackness" part.  That's one 
> thing on my Sony LCD, playing a dark game like Doom 3, sometimes it looked 
> a little off.  There's wasn't a real dark black, the absence of color was 
> more a deep gray.
>
> How you enjoying Oblivion McG?  I could never get into Morrowind, but I 
> spent close to 4 hours making my way to Kvatch today.
>
> -- 
> Cthulhu for President in 2008. Why vote for a lesser evil?
>
> Steve ¤ťIngloŤ¤
> www.inglostadt.com

It's a beautiful game.  There is a lot to do in it without ever touching a 
quest.  They're not really my interest, exploring the world is.   I haven't 
made it very far anywhere really, I've found a couple caverns close to the 
Imperial City and between crashes....play in those.  The AI of the NPC's is 
quite interesting I think.    I'll work on talking to bandits rather than 
fight and see what happens.
Frequent CTD's, that is the thing I don't like about Oblivion.  I'm still 
playing with my settings.  It plays very smooth in 1280x1024 with everything 
on and cranked up in SLI.  Perhaps I need to change drivers.  One second I'm 
playing and the next I'm looking at the desktop.
Happy Easter Steve!
McG. 

On 4/14/2006 6:41 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>
> It's a beautiful game.  There is a lot to do in it without ever touching a 
> quest.  They're not really my interest, exploring the world is.   I haven't 
> made it very far anywhere really, I've found a couple caverns close to the 
> Imperial City and between crashes....play in those.  The AI of the NPC's is 
> quite interesting I think.    I'll work on talking to bandits rather than 
> fight and see what happens.
> Frequent CTD's, that is the thing I don't like about Oblivion.  I'm still 
> playing with my settings.  It plays very smooth in 1280x1024 with everything 
> on and cranked up in SLI.  Perhaps I need to change drivers.  One second I'm 
> playing and the next I'm looking at the desktop.
> Happy Easter Steve!
> McG. 
>
>
>   
I haven't had that ctd problem with my 6800, it runs nice enough (20 fps 
outdoors) at 1024x768.  I don't know if you can get the bandits to talk, 
maybe if you have your weapon sheathed.  Have you got your horse yet?  
That's something you get following the main storyline, makes things 
easier.  I got a little sidetracked from playing and have now just 
crossed my first Oblivion gate.
How about Tomb Raider Legend?  I've never been much of a fan of the 
series (I know you are) but the demo got me to go buy the full version.  
It's a nice looking game, the "next generation" content is too much for 
my "last generation" system unfortunately, though you should be able to 
handle it.  Without that stuff on the game still looks and plays 
fantastic. 
Have you pre-purchased Sin Episodes on Steam yet?  I just played through 
SiN 1 (which you get with the SE: Emergence pre-order)  a couple of 
times, what a fun game, I can't wait for the Emergence release.
as
Easter and spring can't get here soon enough.  We've been having rain 
practically every day since the beginning of March, I feel like I live 
in Seattle rather than Oakland.  Supposed to finally have clear skies on 
Monday.

-- 
Cthulhu for President in 2008. Why vote for a lesser evil?

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

"Inglo" <ioo@??.żżż> wrote in message 
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> On 4/14/2006 6:41 PM McGrandpa brightened our day with:
>>
>> It's a beautiful game.  There is a lot to do in it without ever touching 
>> a quest.  They're not really my interest, exploring the world is.   I 
>> haven't made it very far anywhere really, I've found a couple caverns 
>> close to the Imperial City and between crashes....play in those.  The AI 
>> of the NPC's is quite interesting I think.    I'll work on talking to 
>> bandits rather than fight and see what happens.
>> Frequent CTD's, that is the thing I don't like about Oblivion.  I'm still 
>> playing with my settings.  It plays very smooth in 1280x1024 with 
>> everything on and cranked up in SLI.  Perhaps I need to change drivers. 
>> One second I'm playing and the next I'm looking at the desktop.
>> Happy Easter Steve!
>> McG.
>>
>>
> I haven't had that ctd problem with my 6800, it runs nice enough (20 fps 
> outdoors) at 1024x768.  I don't know if you can get the bandits to talk, 
> maybe if you have your weapon sheathed.  Have you got your horse yet? 
> That's something you get following the main storyline, makes things 
> easier.  I got a little sidetracked from playing and have now just crossed 
> my first Oblivion gate.
> How about Tomb Raider Legend?  I've never been much of a fan of the series 
> (I know you are) but the demo got me to go buy the full version.  It's a 
> nice looking game, the "next generation" content is too much for my "last 
> generation" system unfortunately, though you should be able to handle it. 
> Without that stuff on the game still looks and plays fantastic. Have you 
> pre-purchased Sin Episodes on Steam yet?  I just played through SiN 1 
> (which you get with the SE: Emergence pre-order)  a couple of times, what 
> a fun game, I can't wait for the Emergence release.
> as
> Easter and spring can't get here soon enough.  We've been having rain 
> practically every day since the beginning of March, I feel like I live in 
> Seattle rather than Oakland.  Supposed to finally have clear skies on 
> Monday.
>
> -- 
> Cthulhu for President in 2008. Why vote for a lesser evil?
>
> Steve ¤ťIngloŤ¤
> www.inglostadt.com

You mean they *GIVE* you the first SiN game but in Source?   At like $20 
that by itself should be worth it.    I haven't bought it yet.
Your 6800 should be able to handle Legends pretty well.   I'm playing it in 
non-SLI right now.  1280x1024 isn't high enough to bog the 7800Gtx down 
much.  NextGen content is higher res textures, better detail.  There are the 
better SM3 particle effects like mist, smoke, dust, lighting etc.  Makes for 
some gorgeous scenes in places.  I'm trying out FRAPS with it.  seems to 
work well and fr's average in 50's and 60's, lowest is 21 and highest is 
112.  Would have smoother transitions if in SLI I think.
I think that even without nextgen stuff, it's a good looking game.  deffo 
made for the general casual console gamer.  I prefer the type of game-play 
we had with the first 4 tr's, but this is playable.  It's a pleasant 
diversion.  I do like the gorgeous scenery I've found in places.   I'm 
actually trying to get a Pelican XBox360 gamepad going to try out with this 
game.  Gotta get the drivers going first though.

CTD's, might not be from the vid cards, but the x2 CPU possibly, or also 
from memory leaks.   It's not oc'd either, nothing on this rig is.  CPU runs 
cool, vid cards are cool-ER with the new large sidefan.  Idle they run 43C, 
under load, 68-72C.  CPU stays around 36-38C until continually loaded, then 
it's maxed at 46C so far.
Oblivion is a cool game to explore.  No horse of my own yet, I haven't 
gotten very far from Imperial City. :)   I have seen a couple horses and 
riders.   This game does benefit from SLI and dual core.   They're getting 
there man, it's almost like being there.   Some of the textures in the 
caves/dungeons are very realistic looking.  One of the better games this 
year.   What else is due out that looks ultra realistic?
McG.