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"Håvard K. Moen" wrote:

> What do you need that gun for? Protection. Well, in Norway, we use
> guns for hunting only, and that's all we need them for.
> 
> The best thing would be if you didn't need the gun to protect yourself
> at all, right? In a perfect world, people don't need guns to protect
> themselves. I am correct, right?

	Do you live in a perfect world?  I doubt it.  If you think you do, how do you
know?  Have you lived in other countries?  Have you experienced the freedoms
that we are discussing?  Have you ever been threatened by the threats we
discuss?

	I don't live in a perfect world and I can't think of anyone who is.

	"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; In
practice, there is."
                -- Chuck Reid

> > > Oh, and we (Norway) don't ban guns, but people who don't need guns
> > > won't be allowed to buy them. If you are a hunter and do not have a
> > > criminal record, yeah, you will get a gun, but you will need proper
> > > training too.
> >
> > Oh yeah huh? Whom decides who "needs" a gun? You can't have a criminal
> > record and buy a gun here either. I agree, people should have proper
> > training.
> 
> They have to apply for one. They need a reason to own the gun
> (hunting).

	Hunting is an arbitrary 'reason'.  The only reason that is this way is because
lawmakers realized that this is the most convenient way to make the anti-gun
people happy without pissing off the hunters too much. In other words, its
arbitrary in principle but easy to implement.

> I don't think just any guy should be able to get a gun. To own a gun,
> you have to have a purpose for it, in my opinion. That way, you could
> get a gun if your were a hunter, for example, but not if you wanted to
> "protect yourself".

	I already mentioned this in another post, but our constitution explictly allows
us to decide what our reasons are.  The bottom line is that I don't want the
government (or some large voting body of idiots) to tell me what is or is not a
valid reason to own a gun.

	Dave