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Article #471Re: Hexen2 sucks
From: n.bat... Nick Batchelor
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:00
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Now then people, I had a p166mmx but got bored - it ran quake a little better than my buddies' straight 166's, so with a nice big heat sink and s printout from Tom's hardware guide I got me a P208MMX (been running without errors for 4 months now). And suddenly I could run quake better than all my friends who had bought 200's after me. HAHAHHA. Until they went out and bought 3Dfx's. Was it smooth? yup. Was it 640x480? Uhuh. (I had been happy with 640x400 at high frame rate) Was it texture filtered? Can fish swim? Oh, and they had transparent water. Now we have all got HEXEN II, I run in 512x384 and suffer when displaying large areas of transparencies, and my (ex) freinds still run it on their 166's in 640x480 all the bells and whistles and no jerkiness. I might get an Apocalypse 3Dx. I think its time to face up the fact that to run the new 3d games that ware coming out for christmas you will need 1) a top notch 3d card 2) a big processor (p133 + for the first batch, until the programmers get cleaver, then maybe a p2 300, with an AGP 3d card etctetctetc) Oooh, I just read sommet from Jahn Carmack, to parraphrase: Trinity won't be out for at least eighteen months. The level of hardware REQUIRED is not yet common enough to ensure a commercial success if released now. (source Digitiser C4 teletextP171) Never mind that most pc of today cant even run hexen II well. It is a sign of things to come........ --NIck Batchelor On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 16:57:09 GMT, drwarner**REM...@mindspring.com (Daniel Warner) wrote: >RCWar...@nospam.com (Richard Johnson) wrote: > >>That just proves that you need a 3DFX voodoo card. Intel puts out 100 >>versions of the Pentium chip and put out ads with those idiotic >>dancing guys in shiny suits. But the fact is who gives a shit about >>upgrading their pentium cpu anymore? No pentium cpu can do what a 3DFX >>card can. Also the MMX and AGP technologies are also bullshit. >>I have an Orchid Righteous 3D card with the 3DFX voodoo chip and Hexen >>2 has totally smooth sound and graphics with it. >>You also should have at least 32 megs ram for hexen 2. >> >>Thank god for 3DFX because we used to have to spend huge amounts of >>money for pentium upgrades and motherboard upgrades to run 3D games >>faster. >> >> > >My isn't this post a wonderfully uninformed peice of drivel! So in >several years you're still going to be using that P166? No, you >won't, not for games. Because the faster the processor gets, the more >computational power your computer has. And the more computational >power, the more effects will be put in. Like parametric curves and >fractal generated environments... these are all dependant on a >computer with a fast CPU. THe 3DFX only accelerates rasterization... >of the stuff that the CPU calculates. > >Point in case, I put a Righteous 3d on a Cyrix P133+ (the old ones >with the REALLY bad FPU). It improves speed... but in areas that don't >have huge amounts of polygons. You can see the framerate drop when it >gets into moderate areas, and just die in complex ones. > >And AGP is not bullshit.... calling AGP bullshit is somewhat like >calling a PCI motherboard bullshit... AGP is accelerated Graphics >Port. Future video cards will plug into this instead of a PCI slot. >AGP accelerates it even further.... > >Next time put just a little thought into your posts ok? >
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From: n.bat...@spamless.rhbnc.ac.uk (Nick Batchelor) Subject: Re: Hexen2 sucks Date: 1997/09/23 Message-ID: <3427bceb.17787661@news.rmplc.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 274937764 References: <5vvnka$j6i$1@gte2.gte.net> <600pvn$7ri@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <342d1bf8.17149852@netnews.worldnet.att.net> <34254fee.13495091@news.mindspring.com> Organization: Research Machines plc Newsgroups: alt.games.quake2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit