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On 29 Oct 2005 13:22:38 -0700, "kilowatt@charter.net"
<kilowatt@charter.net> wrote:

>I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
>to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.

Nvidia 6800 oc (256meg), runs fine with everything except ultra
quality

<kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message 
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>I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
> to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.
>

Gforce2?  don't make me laugh. I don't think you can play Q4 @ 3fps.

ATI X700 PCIe 256mb here, $200.00 US at BestBuy just about a year ago when I 
put my P4 rig together.
Best Bang for the buck then.
Just finished Q4 and the lowest frame rate I saw was 17fps with 40-60fps 
being the average through the game at high settings @ 1024x768.

As always for the legendary game of Quake, Great Game!

Well coded only one bug/freezeup, maybe sound drivers.
Use's less cpu & runs cooler than FarCry, DOOM3 COD etc. IMO.
Maps are a little slow to load even with SATA 10,000rpm drives, but no 
worries, just glad I'm not loading them with ATA100 7200 drives. ;-)

Now I'll just have to wait 5 years till I can afford a computer that can run 
it @ 1600x1200 in ultra video mode w/160+fps.

BTW three direct blasts with the shotgun takes out those flying skirt 
thingies. 

<kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message 
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>I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
> to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.
>

6800GT  256m AGP   it's good, but Q4 could push on even more :)
McG. 

on 1 machine I have a radeon x800 pro - 256MB Q4 runs the best (P4/3.4ghz)
on another machine I have a GeForce PCX 5750 - 128MB (P4/3ghz) which runs Q4 
very satisfactorly
-- 
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Doing nothing makes me tired 'cause I can't take a break.
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<kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message 
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>I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
> to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.
> 

<kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message 
news:1130617358.000267.13870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
> to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.
>

X800XT PE - runs everything on high with 2AA and 4AF.  Haven't tweaked any 
game settings yet so might be able to get better out of this card 

"murph1012" <baaa@boohoo.com> wrote in news:4363e576$0$44660$892e7fe2
@authen.white.readfreenews.net:

> Gforce2?  don't make me laugh. I don't think you can play Q4 @ 3fps.

That's not bad. I once fired up Tribes 2 on my colocated Linux server over 
an X Windows session, so all the rendering had to go over the Internet via 
my cable modem. I think I got 3 frames per *minute*. What was interesting 
was that it worked at all, to run a FPS game across multiple state lines!

I've got Q4 loaded on the same colo. (It's running the "(MA) Blame Canada" 
arena CTF server.) I'll bet if I copied my nVidia DLL's to it, it would 
attempt to run with my display at home. Might be fun to leave a timedemo 
running overnight. ;)

didn't work for RADEON 9200

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:22:38 -0700, kilowatt@charter.net wrote:

> I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
> to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.

I'm happy with my Trident 1Mb card (ISA bus).

-- 
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

Dan C wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:22:38 -0700, kilowatt@charter.net wrote:
>
> > I just tried Quake 4.  My old Gforce 2 is no longer enough.  What cards
> > to Quake 4 players have they are happy with.
>
> I'm happy with my Trident 1Mb card (ISA bus).
>
> --
> If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> Linux Registered User #327951

Just the thing I expect from a Linux user.  Poor attempt at humor and a
very poor attempt at an OS.

"kilowatt@charter.net" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in 
news:1130772121.861889.151470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

>> If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
>> Linux Registered User #327951
> 
> Just the thing I expect from a Linux user.  Poor attempt at humor and a
> very poor attempt at an OS.

We don't have to run faster than the bear. We just have to run faster than 
Windows.

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:22:01 -0800, kilowatt@charter.net wrote:

>> I'm happy with my Trident 1Mb card (ISA bus).
 
> Just the thing I expect from a Linux user.  Poor attempt at humor and a
> very poor attempt at an OS.

LOL!  You're a moron.  Go buy some more antivirus or anti-spyware
software, or whatever it is that you WinFools do.

I wasn't kidding about the video card, either.  Works great for me.

-- 
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

Dan C wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:22:01 -0800, kilowatt@charter.net wrote:
>
> >> I'm happy with my Trident 1Mb card (ISA bus).
>
> > Just the thing I expect from a Linux user.  Poor attempt at humor and a
> > very poor attempt at an OS.
>
> LOL!  You're a moron.  Go buy some more antivirus or anti-spyware
> software, or whatever it is that you WinFools do.
>
> I wasn't kidding about the video card, either.  Works great for me.
>
> --
> If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
> Linux Registered User #327951

I guess Linux is ok for people that are not interested in running
software.  Do a little web browsing and run the fraction of software
that is written for Linux.  I guess you don't need much hardware to do
that.

You are the moron.  I live in the real world.

On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:22:26 -0800, kilowatt@charter.net wrote:

>> > Just the thing I expect from a Linux user.  Poor attempt at humor and
>> > a very poor attempt at an OS.

>> LOL!  You're a moron.  Go buy some more antivirus or anti-spyware
>> software, or whatever it is that you WinFools do.

> I guess Linux is ok for people that are not interested in running
> software.

I run LOTS of software.  Get a clue.

> Do a little web browsing and run the fraction of software that is
> written for Linux.  I guess you don't need much hardware to do that.

Is that all that you think Linux can do?  Are you really saying that (in
public), because if you are, it shows you for the fool you are.

> You are the moron.  I live in the real world.

Right.  Let me guess.... you want to try Linux (or already have tried),
but can't figure it out, so you bad-mouth it without really knowing
anything about it.  There isn't anything you can do in Windoze that I
can't do in Linux.

Don't talk about what you don't know.  It makes you look stupid.

-- 
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

Dan C wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:22:26 -0800, kilowatt@charter.net wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>Just the thing I expect from a Linux user.  Poor attempt at humor and
>>>>a very poor attempt at an OS.
> 
> 
>>>LOL!  You're a moron.  Go buy some more antivirus or anti-spyware
>>>software, or whatever it is that you WinFools do.
> 
> 
>>I guess Linux is ok for people that are not interested in running
>>software.
> 
> 
> I run LOTS of software.  Get a clue.
> 
> 
>>Do a little web browsing and run the fraction of software that is
>>written for Linux.  I guess you don't need much hardware to do that.
> 
> 
> Is that all that you think Linux can do?  Are you really saying that (in
> public), because if you are, it shows you for the fool you are.
> 
> 
>>You are the moron.  I live in the real world.
> 
> 
> Right.  Let me guess.... you want to try Linux (or already have tried),
> but can't figure it out, so you bad-mouth it without really knowing
> anything about it.  There isn't anything you can do in Windoze that I
> can't do in Linux.
> 
> Don't talk about what you don't know.  It makes you look stupid.
> 
LoL and soo kilowatt got OWNED ROFL!!

kilowatt@charter.net wrote:

> 
> I guess Linux is ok for people that are not interested in running
> software.  Do a little web browsing and run the fraction of software
> that is written for Linux.  I guess you don't need much hardware to do
> that.
> 
> You are the moron.  I live in the real world.

Linux is like a bicycle. It will get you around. Windows is a like a car, it 
will take you a lot farther.

Registered linux users are like people that have lost their driver's 
licenses, so now they hate cars. I find it quite amusing. :)

sittingduck <spam.no.sitting-duck@spamgourmet.com> wrote in
news:Xns97076A1F829D9duckrulestheuniverse@news.easynews.com: 

> Linux is like a bicycle. It will get you around. Windows is a like a
> car, it will take you a lot farther.

No, Linux is like a sports car, while Windows is like the family Buick. 
When the Buick breaks, you have no idea what's wrong and have to take it to 
a dealer because the engine computer is sealed shut and undocumented. But 
it's easy to drive and maintain, if you can afford it. The sports car is 
lean and fast and easy to fix, if you're willing to figure out the service 
manual. All parts of the engine, including the computer, are completely 
open and you *can* figure out what's wrong. And you can bolt on an off-road 
kit, in case you want to go somewhere the Buick is incapable of.

ScratchMonkey wrote:

> And you can bolt on an off-road 
> kit, in case you want to go somewhere the Buick is incapable of.

which would be a windows emulator. <G>

"sittingduck" <spam.no.sitting-duck@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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> ScratchMonkey wrote:
>
> > And you can bolt on an off-road
> > kit, in case you want to go somewhere the Buick is incapable of.
>
> which would be a windows emulator. <G>

Sad but true... I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting via
it, and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis, had Linux
binaries.

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EvilBill wrote:
> "sittingduck" <spam.no.sitting-duck@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9708E656BD471duckrulestheuniverse@news.easynews.com...
> 
>>ScratchMonkey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And you can bolt on an off-road
>>>kit, in case you want to go somewhere the Buick is incapable of.
>>
>>which would be a windows emulator. <G>
> 
> 
> Sad but true... I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting via
> it, and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis, had Linux
> binaries.
> 

...if my ISP provided for connecting via it... <-- O_o I dont get it, 
can you explain it to me?

thx

BaToCarx <lol@lol.com> wrote in news:Fotcf.1135$h6.425528@news.siol.net:

>> Sad but true... I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting
>> via it, and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis,
>> had Linux binaries.
>> 
> 
> ...if my ISP provided for connecting via it... <-- O_o I dont get it, 
> can you explain it to me?

It's not that you can't, but that they don't "support" it. Ie. they won't 
hold your hand. Surprisingly, Comcast hosts a Unix web forum for people 
running Linux and BSD. It's not official but there's some sympathetic 
Comcast people there.

Some routers secretly run Linux inside. Notably the Linksys WRT54G and 
WRT54GS. Linksys provides the source on its website and 3rd parties have 
extended it to add more features. So if you use a Linksys to connect to 
your ISP, you're already using Linux.

Linux is a great OS for "appliances" like routers and TiVos. In addition to 
scaling up to server-class equipment, it can be trimmed way down to fit in 
a very small amount of memory (by present day standards), and it doesn't 
need a keyboard and display to function. You can sorta do that with NT 
(XP's core, available for embedding), but I'm sure it's nowhere near as 
scalable.

It should be quite straightforward to take Id's Linux builds for various 
games and build a dedicated console, perhaps for use in cafes or on 
airplanes. You could boot them from CDROM, so they reset to ground zero 
when the customer is done with them. Try doing that with Windows. (Yeah, 
you can use PE Builder, but MS doesn't like that.)

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:25:42 +0000, sittingduck wrote:

> Linux is like a bicycle. It will get you around. Windows is a like a car, it 
> will take you a lot farther.

Another retarded winfuck speaks up.  Go do a virus scan, or whatever it is
you idiots do.
 
> Registered linux users are like people that have lost their driver's
> licenses, so now they hate cars. I find it quite amusing. :)

A clueless retard, at that.  

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Linux Registered User #327951

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:51:48 +0000, EvilBill wrote:

> I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting via it, 

Your ISP doesn't care what you use to connect.  What do you mean by
"provided for connecting"?  Are you using some proprietary crap like AOL
or something?

> and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis, had Linux
> binaries.

You might be surprised.  What software/games do you run on a daily basis?

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Dan C wrote:

> Another retarded winfuck speaks up.  Go do a virus scan, or whatever it is
> you idiots do.
>  
>> Registered linux users are like people that have lost their driver's
>> licenses, so now they hate cars. I find it quite amusing. :)
> 
> A clueless retard, at that.  

Perfect response. A little late, but exactly what I expected.
Thanks.

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:16:30 -0600, ScratchMonkey wrote:

(snip)

> It should be quite straightforward to take Id's Linux builds for various 
> games and build a dedicated console, perhaps for use in cafes or on 
> airplanes. You could boot them from CDROM, so they reset to ground zero 
> when the customer is done with them. Try doing that with Windows. (Yeah, 
> you can use PE Builder, but MS doesn't like that.)

The Gentoo live games cd did that - on the client side. They got legally
whacked.

Dan C wrote:

> Another fuck  up.  
> you idiot
>  

> 
> retard  
> 
> 

http://huckit.net/files/crazypwn3d.JPG

lmao!

ScratchMonkey wrote:
> BaToCarx <lol@lol.com> wrote in news:Fotcf.1135$h6.425528@news.siol.net:
> 
> 
>>>Sad but true... I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting
>>>via it, and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis,
>>>had Linux binaries.
>>>
>>
>>...if my ISP provided for connecting via it... <-- O_o I dont get it, 
>>can you explain it to me?
> 
> 
> It's not that you can't, but that they don't "support" it. Ie. they won't 
> hold your hand. Surprisingly, Comcast hosts a Unix web forum for people 
> running Linux and BSD. It's not official but there's some sympathetic 
> Comcast people there.
> 
> Some routers secretly run Linux inside. Notably the Linksys WRT54G and 
> WRT54GS. Linksys provides the source on its website and 3rd parties have 
> extended it to add more features. So if you use a Linksys to connect to 
> your ISP, you're already using Linux.
> 
> Linux is a great OS for "appliances" like routers and TiVos. In addition to 
> scaling up to server-class equipment, it can be trimmed way down to fit in 
> a very small amount of memory (by present day standards), and it doesn't 
> need a keyboard and display to function. You can sorta do that with NT 
> (XP's core, available for embedding), but I'm sure it's nowhere near as 
> scalable.
> 
> It should be quite straightforward to take Id's Linux builds for various 
> games and build a dedicated console, perhaps for use in cafes or on 
> airplanes. You could boot them from CDROM, so they reset to ground zero 
> when the customer is done with them. Try doing that with Windows. (Yeah, 
> you can use PE Builder, but MS doesn't like that.)


LoL, how funny i have the wrt54gs and i flashed it to an other FW, 
lololol. Still he didnt answer how he cant connect/use i-net with 
linux...coz its lame to say this, but 80%++ i-net thingies are *nix 
machines.

"BaToCarx" <lol@lol.com> wrote in message
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> EvilBill wrote:
> >
> > Sad but true... I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting
via
> > it, and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis, had
Linux
> > binaries.
> >
>
> ...if my ISP provided for connecting via it... <-- O_o I dont get it,
> can you explain it to me?
>
> thx

Well, they don't support setting up their connection under Linux, I don't
know much about setting up an ADSL connection manually, and I'm not even
sure if my USB ADSL modem has Linux drivers.

(Linux still wouldn't run at least 80% of the games I play, or the chat
software I use to keep in touch with my long-distance fiancee.)

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"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.10.03.07.40.494401@invalid.lan...
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:51:48 +0000, EvilBill wrote:
>
> > I'd switch to Linux if my ISP provided for connecting via it,
>
> Your ISP doesn't care what you use to connect.  What do you mean by
> "provided for connecting"?  Are you using some proprietary crap like AOL
> or something?
>


No, but I don't know how to set up ADSL connections by hand, or my ISP's
specific connection settings, or if Linux supports my USB ADSL modem.

> > and all the software, games etc, that I run on a daily basis, had Linux
> > binaries.
>
> You might be surprised.  What software/games do you run on a daily basis?
>


Yahoo Messenger, MSN Messenger, AIM, Diablo II, Pharaoh, Rome: Total War,
Outlook Express, LOTR: Battle for Middle-Earth, all the Age of Empires
games, Winamp, Black and White...

As far as I know, out of all the games I play, only the Dooms and the Quakes
have Linux binaries.

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"EvilBill" <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in news:dl08tp$4b6$1
@domitilla.aioe.org:

> I'm not even
> sure if my USB ADSL modem has Linux drivers.

That's why I avoid USB modems. Ethernet ones don't need a driver. No alien 
software to worry about on my PC (whether Windows or Linux) that could 
interfere with other things.

USB is good for many things. Broadband modems isn't one of them. (I've read 
the standard, and the datasheets on some USB chipsets. Right now I'm doing 
Firewire driver work on Windows, and wish it was Linux so I could get 
sources all the way down to the metal.)

"ScratchMonkey" <ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote in message
> "EvilBill" <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in news:dl08tp$4b6$1
> @domitilla.aioe.org:
>
> > I'm not even
> > sure if my USB ADSL modem has Linux drivers.
>
> That's why I avoid USB modems. Ethernet ones don't need a driver. No alien
> software to worry about on my PC (whether Windows or Linux) that could
> interfere with other things.
>
> USB is good for many things. Broadband modems isn't one of them. (I've
read
> the standard, and the datasheets on some USB chipsets. Right now I'm doing
> Firewire driver work on Windows, and wish it was Linux so I could get
> sources all the way down to the metal.)

Yeah, I knew the Ethernet ones were better... sadly, they're also more
costly, and the USB one came free with my ISP subscription, so... yeah. :)

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Radeon 9700 pro here, the game is very playable at 1280x1024, not using
max settings. Probably could use max settings if I lower the resolution.