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Re: Jumping and flying

#74531
From: Nicholas Taylor
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:05
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"Jdlar" <Jd...@charter.net> writes:

> How would you go about doing the rocket jump? Is that a cheat code?

You'll have noticed that, when someone shoots you, you're thrown away
from the damage.  A rocket causes damage in a volume around the impact
point.  The rocket jump is based on these facts.  Essentially, look
down, then jump and shoot a rocket simultaneously.  This will fling
you high into the air.  There's more to it than that, but that comes
with practice.

It's also possible to grenade jump.  This is *hard*.

> I could not get any cheat codes to work on the MSN ZONE game site.

This is as it should be.  There are ways to cheat online, but please
don't use them.  Ever.

> Yet, everyone else is flying all around. Tonight, I was playing in a
> city setting with tall skyscrapers. And, the other players were
> literally flying through the sky above the buildings. I could not
> compete at all. There was no competition. It's so bad that it's not
> even fun when they are up 10 stories above me flying in the air
> shooting at me.

I'd guess there's some kind of mod in effect.  Depending how helpful
your fellow players are feeling, you could try asking them about
this.  The server's welcome message might have made some mention of
it, too.

> I don't know why I cannot enter any cheat codes after I type in ~ to
> bring up the council. It keeps telling me that it does not recognize
> the codes that I put in. I tried the sv_gravity as well as the FLY
> codes and got the same message that it did not recognize the codes
> both times.

sv_gravity is a server variable.  You're not the server, so you can't
set it.  As I already mentioned, inability to cheat online is by
design.

Incidentally, it's "console" rather than "council".

> I also tried the fly code offline and it does not do anything at all
> for my game. When I use the d and c keys, nothing happens at all. I
> could get the gravity to work. But, after I went up to the ceiling,
> I could not come back down again. When I see the people online, they
> seem to make three story jumps and come right back down again. they
> don't just hang there like I did offline.

I can't actually remember how the "fly" cheat code in Quake I works -
I have a feeling it just means that moving forward isn't restricted to
the ground.

When you played with sv_gravity, did you set it to 0 or some low
value?  With 0, or a small number, you'll end up getting cosy with the
ceiling every time you jump.  100 is probably about the value you want
for big impressive jumps, though it makes most levels quite awkward to
play.  In the single-player game, the episode 1 secret level "Ziggurat
Vertigo" has sv_gravity 100, and works quite well with it.

Unrelated point, but I don't suppose you could put your replies below
the text you're replying to?  It's the conventional way to do things
on Usenet.
-- 
Nicholas Taylor
Considered harmless
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