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In article <05DEC93.22...@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, B7WI <B7...@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes...

>1) people that don't even ASK you if they can join in; 'specially
>   if both of you know they'll kick your ass...

Or even if they're even in skill with you, at least when I'm using Shang
Tsung and "fatality-seeking."  I can't use ST well against players yet.

>2) people that smoke really bad-smelling cigarettes while you play.
>   i keep thinking "gee, i wish i could escape this stench" and
>   die...

That's when a Sub-Zero freeze to the cig might be in order.

>3) people who consider everything you do to be cheap, and don't
>   waste any time in telling you this. when you ask them something
>   like "why IS it so cheap when i throw you?" they can't answer,
>   or say something like "i can't block against that" to which i
>   respond "DON'T LET ME NEAR YOU FUCKER!!!" and we get in a row
>   and all dat booshee... so, guys, what do YOU think is cheap?
>   throwing? nah; if there is a move for a throw, i think you
>   should be able to use it. i think people just don't like to see
>   themselves getting flung aroung like a rag doll, that's all. ah,
>   the plebes...

I find very little cheap in the game so far, save things like Raiden's
throw that can be used four or five times in a row and CAN'T be stopped.
(The girls' can't throw more than twice before you can get away, and only
then if you're in a corner).  Still, they can be avoided.  And the computer
came up with the ulimate throw counter.

For those who don't know (at least in my versions), the computer CANNOT be
thrown.  You attempt to throw, EVEN WHEN THE COMPUTER IS FROZEN OR IN THE
"FINISH HIM" DIZZY, and YOU will be thrown, not the computer.  An interesting,
if impossible and completely cheap computerized counter ...

-- Svenster

In article <05DEC93.22...@VM1.MCGILL.CA> B7WI <B7...@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>First, let me clear up a bit. this isn't a diatribe on cheap
>techniques. as far as i'm concerned, there is no such thing. well,
>except when mileena or kitana throws you three or four or five or
>til whenever you die times in the row or sonya players pull the
>infamous "sonya cheat" (spake in a lower, hushed, don't-say-it-
>too-loud-or-you'll-get-your-ass-kicked-in-the-arcade-we-don't-play-
>here-like-that tone of voice); but hey...
>i do have some peeves, however. i just wanted to know if anyone
>out there shares them:
>1) people that don't even ASK you if they can join in; 'specially
>   if both of you know they'll kick your ass...

	One time I was playing MK against the computer, and I was doing pretty
well (considering that I suck at fighting games). I had just beaten the fourth
or fifth guy in a row without continuing, and had pulled off the fatality 
almost every time. Now, I WANTED to keep playing the computer, but some local
expert walked up and put his money in without saying a word. I KNEW he would
kick my butt, and I therefore knew that if I fought him I would lose, and then
just leave, and not even bother to waste any more money trying to beat him.
I knew my game was already over, and I just had to go through with playing to
get it over with. Well, I got my butt kicked in two rounds as predicted, but
right afterwards I was hit with a feeling of I-just-thought-of-something-I-
could-have-done-but-its-too-late-now-so-I'll-do-it-next-time. I thought of the
perfect thing to do to annoy someone who joins in without asking, and you know
he will beat you: As soon as he puts his money in and presses start, or as soon
as he chooses a character, just walk away from the machine, and don't look
back. Let him fight an inactive character for two rounds. He wanted a challenge
from you, but he didn't ask, so don't give him one. Ok, so it's not the most
evil thing you could do, but I think it would get your point across.


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In article <1993Dec7.1...@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, pen...@ccs.neu.edu (Karl J. von Laudermann) writes...
One time I was playing MK against the computer, and I was doing pretty
>well (considering that I suck at fighting games). I had just beaten the fourth
>or fifth guy in a row without continuing, and had pulled off the fatality 
>almost every time. Now, I WANTED to keep playing the computer, but some local
>expert walked up and put his money in without saying a word. I KNEW he would
>kick my butt, and I therefore knew that if I fought him I would lose, and then
>just leave, and not even bother to waste any more money trying to beat him.
>I knew my game was already over, and I just had to go through with playing to
>get it over with. Well, I got my butt kicked in two rounds as predicted, but
>right afterwards I was hit with a feeling of I-just-thought-of-something-I-
>could-have-done-but-its-too-late-now-so-I'll-do-it-next-time. I thought of the
>perfect thing to do to annoy someone who joins in without asking, and you know
>he will beat you: As soon as he puts his money in and presses start, or as soon
>as he chooses a character, just walk away from the machine, and don't look
>back. Let him fight an inactive character for two rounds. He wanted a challenge
>from you, but he didn't ask, so don't give him one. Ok, so it's not the most
>evil thing you could do, but I think it would get your point across.
> 
You want evil? That's only EVIl if you're at Mileena or Kitana. Evil is
accidentally stripping over the cord on the way out and unplugging
the machine.

		-Xot

"Not that I'd ever do that, mind you..."

In article <7DEC1993...@nebula.ucs.umass.edu> x...@nebula.ucs.umass.edu (THE EXAULTED GREY WIZARD OF PALANTHAS) writes:
>In article <1993Dec7.1...@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, pen...@ccs.neu.edu (Karl J. von Laudermann) writes...
>One time I was playing MK against the computer, and I was doing pretty
>>well (considering that I suck at fighting games). I had just beaten the fourth
>>or fifth guy in a row without continuing, and had pulled off the fatality 
>>almost every time. Now, I WANTED to keep playing the computer, but some local
>>expert walked up and put his money in without saying a word. I KNEW he would
>>kick my butt, and I therefore knew that if I fought him I would lose, and then
>>just leave, and not even bother to waste any more money trying to beat him.
>>I knew my game was already over, and I just had to go through with playing to
>>get it over with. Well, I got my butt kicked in two rounds as predicted, but
>>right afterwards I was hit with a feeling of I-just-thought-of-something-I-
>>could-have-done-but-its-too-late-now-so-I'll-do-it-next-time. I thought of the
>>perfect thing to do to annoy someone who joins in without asking, and you know
>>he will beat you: As soon as he puts his money in and presses start, or as soon
>>as he chooses a character, just walk away from the machine, and don't look
>>back. Let him fight an inactive character for two rounds. He wanted a challenge
>>from you, but he didn't ask, so don't give him one. Ok, so it's not the most
>>evil thing you could do, but I think it would get your point across.
>> 
>You want evil? That's only EVIl if you're at Mileena or Kitana. Evil is
>accidentally stripping over the cord on the way out and unplugging
>the machine.
>
>		-Xot
>
>"Not that I'd ever do that, mind you..."
>


Usually if you ask people (around here, anyway) if you can finish playing the
computer they will wait and then save you when you die.

Here's a Mortal Kombat ethics question:  IF it were 50 cents to start and 25 
to continue, what if two people both put 50 cents in and played while someone
waited in line to play the winner.  But the guy who loses argues that 
continueing only costs 25 cents because his 50 cents started the game, therefor
he should be able to continue until he doesn't want to any more.
Who should get to play?
Brian

In <Dec07.221...@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bfen...@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Brian Fenwick) writes:

>Here's a Mortal Kombat ethics question:  IF it were 50 cents to start and 25 
>to continue, what if two people both put 50 cents in and played while someone
>waited in line to play the winner.  But the guy who loses argues that 
>continueing only costs 25 cents because his 50 cents started the game, therefor
>he should be able to continue until he doesn't want to any more.
>Who should get to play?
>Brian

I suppose that depends on the ethics of the guy who put in 50 cents and
the ethics of the winner as well.  I don't feel that the ethics of fighting
games should override standard arcade ethics...  If the guy at the machine
has made it plain he wishes to stay there (with a dozen quarters on the
glass or whatever) -- then I think the ball's in his court, regardless of
whether he popped in 50 cents to begin with or not.  Since it does violate
the tradition of fighting games, I'm sure he'll get some fuming arcadians
breathing down his neck and pressuring him to release his hold, but I don't
feel that 'only the best should be allowed to play' (which is what happens
if you don't let people continue their personal battles) especially when
you consider that they basically play for free.

The closest I've come to a confrontation of this sort was one night while
a friend and I had a single elimination tournament (just between the two
of us) on MK I.  Someone else came up and wanted to join in, and we
explained we had a competition going, and would be done in no more than
4 more games...  Although he didn't get nasty about it, it was apparent
that he felt this a violation of standard protocol.  Since we weren't
extreme, and he wasn't overly pushy -- things worked out fine.


---Xeno
-- 
Gary L Snethen
xe...@iastate.edu