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This is in reference to <MPG.113ab8b14...@news.demon.co.uk>, in
which a one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <mg1A2.3975$pE6....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
> tabm...@geoshitties.com says...

> > > > Or the gene remained dormant, until a certain situation brought it
> > > > out...  which is just what I was saying!  
> > > 
> > > It is not quite like that. Genes are not generally like switches which 
> > > get "turned on" by experiences. 
> > 
> > I think that if a gene is what causes it (no proof yet, there may
> > be some day though) then this shows that it is possible for some
> > genes to be just like that.
> 
> How does it show that?

It shows that a gene has remained dormant until an experience
activated it.  Simple as that.

> > > > That it was a combination
> > > > of genes and an experience (whether perceived positively or
> > > > negatively).
> > > 
> > > Many homosexuals, even today, are afraid to voice or admit to their 
> > > feelings in their early years. Look at Jenn's recent message about what 
> > > she went through at school. It is easy to see why most people hide their 
> > > feelings until they are in an environment where the feel it is "safe" to 
> > > express themselves. If it were not for the original suppression we would 
> > > not have so many marriages broken because one partner is homosexual and 
> > > was trying not to be. We would not have so many people miserable with 
> > > their life because they are afraid of the things people will say/do to 
> > > them. People like you who have done nothing but add to their misery. 
> > 
> > Why does one opinion make me "people like you"?  Don't you think it's
> > a bit judgemental for one opinion to somehow put me in a certain class?  
> 
> No. Your opinions are consistent with your view and some other people's 
> view of homosexuality. People like you is a simple generalisation 
> covering people with similar opinions. How is this judgemental?

It's judgemental because you make it sound like that's all I care
about.

> To be honest, I purposely classified you to show you something. Look how 
> mad you are over being grouped with a few people sharing a common 
> opinion. How do you think a homosexual feels every day of their life?
>
> Follow me?

That's why they should get help, so they'll stop feeling that way.
How do you think someone who is inclined to practice bestiality
feels every day of his/her life?  Oh wait, you already answered
that with a simple "I do not care".

> > > Hardly consideration of their feelings. And as for saying that you do 
> > > consider their feelings and then demand they get help. How hippo critical 
> > > is that!
> > 
> > It's not.  That's exactly what psychiatrists do, examine their feelings.
> 
> You strike me that in a particular position you would listen to the woes 
> of the homosexual then then stand up and tell them to seek professional 
> help. Hardly considerate, hence hippocritical.

And you said I was abusing the term :P  Obviously I have considered
their opinion and have even shown that I considered the "bestiality
person's" opinion where most would not.  That's how therapists, who
*proffestionally operate* work - they consider how the patient feels
so that they can help them.  Are psychiatrists all hypocrites now?

> > > > Do you remember saying this:
> > > > 
> > > > "As a 'Christian' you should be able to appreciate the advantages of
> > > > not running and hiding since your very religion has throughout history
> > > > only come about from people not giving into threats and fighting back."
> > > 
> > > Yeah so? 
> > 
> > So you asked me to quote one of your incessant references to the
> > Catholic Church of the Middle Ages, and I gave it to you.
> 
> I was asking how I was incessant. Well done on snipping the pertinent 
> part of the post. 

You were the one who snipped it out, not me.

> After all you and others have been saying in another 
> thread ( on MKT opinions or something similar ) , you are guilty of the 
> very same!

We have just proven that I was not, and if anything you were.

> > > > I assume you mean I think that they should get psychiatric help, in
> > > > which case you are right but that does not mean I haven't considered
> > > > how they feel.
> > > 
> > > OK. Let's go back to an example of genetic disorder. A person is born 
> > > blind through a genetic reason. Should this person seek psychiatric help? 
> > 
> > If he happens to be crazy, then yes he should.
> 
> Homosexual != crazy.

So "bestial" is?

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