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This is in reference to <MPG.1137ebc24...@news.demon.co.uk>, in
which a one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <uK4z2.2245$pE6....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
> tabm...@geoshitties.com says...
> > Mark, the name of that museum from a long time ago *may* have
> > "National Museum of Health and Medicine" down in D.C....  I
> > saw it mentioned in a local TV show and the exhibit on
> > conjoined twins that was filmed looks pretty familiar :)
> > I'm gonna have to check and see if that's the one.
> 
> OK. Let me know when you know :)
> 
> > LOL, that's just an expression here :)  Anyway, I have major
> > evidence that homosexuality is not inborn but definitely
> > acquired:
> 
> Should prove interesting ...
> 
> > 
> [snip conversational items]
> > 
> > These two people are strangers to each other, but when
> > interviewed about her sexuality the female responded
> > that she had been straight up to that point, but then
> > got involved in lesbian sex later.  She was *44* years
> > old when this happened, plenty of time to get to know
> > herself, don't ya think?  Most people's lives are
> > pretty much defined at that point, so I think this
> > evidence is more than sufficient in proving that
> > "sexual orientation" is not an inborn trait.
> 
> 44 years is quite "old". Homosexuality has only recently gained the 
> acceptance that it enjoys today. The chances are many closet homosexuals 
> suppressed their feelings during times of oppression but are now able to 
> express them. 

But then why was the term "surprised" used?  I'll answet that one...
She was surprised that she actually wanted to do it, not that she was
finally able to.

[...]

> I will not deny that some people try homosexuality through curiosity or 
> maybe they do have some small element of same sex attraction within them. 
> It all stems from the same origin, I.e. genetic. 

Possibly, there are several explanations to this but even if it were
a gene it is possible to supress it without anything "bad" happening.
Or the gene remained dormant, until a certain situation brought it
out...  which is just what I was saying!  That it was a combination
of genes and an experience (whether perceived positively or
negatively).

> > > In which case the terms are synonymous. So what was my "incessant" 
> > > reference then?
> > 
> > You were mentioning them quite a bit at a time...  just forget it...
> 
> I cannot now, it's been built up to much, just close your eyes and type 
> it then I'll forget it, OK? :)

Do you remember saying this:

"As a 'Christian' you should be able to appreciate the advantages of
not running and hiding since your very religion has throughout history
only come about from people not giving into threats and fighting back."

http://x7.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=442805449.1&CONTEXT=919626581.
17694921&hitnum=2

> > > > The fact remains that a gene alone could not account for
> > > > homosexuality, bestiality, alcoholism, or anything else.
> > > 
> > > It can and does. 
> > > 
> > > Have you ever known a homosexual? Talked with them? 
> > 
> > I do personally know the "anonymous female" mentioned above,
> > she was not bisexual when I met her.
> 
> Not *actively* bisexual, maybe. Not *knowingly* bisexual, maybe. Not 
> bisexual, unlikely.

Then what you're saying is that some people can go their whole
lives being bisexual and not know it.  This just goes to show
that they can get therapy and get better.

> > > > That way it might be easier for you to see why "Two people having
> > > > a good time" can still be a bad thing, even though they don't feel
> > > > like they're doing anything wrong.
> > > 
> > > But the current discussion is not about their feelings but about how they 
> > > are perceived by others. Two murderers might find killing people fun. 
> > > That does not make it acceptable.
> > 
> > Exactly!  I *do* look at their feelings, whether they are outweighed by
> > public opinion or not.
> 
> You come across that you see that as abnormal and even abhorent. That is 
> hardly empathy.

I assume you mean I think that they should get psychiatric help, in
which case you are right but that does not mean I haven't considered
how they feel.

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