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Mark, the name of that museum from a long time ago *may* have
"National Museum of Health and Medicine" down in D.C....  I
saw it mentioned in a local TV show and the exhibit on
conjoined twins that was filmed looks pretty familiar :)
I'm gonna have to check and see if that's the one.

This is in reference to <MPG.11357ad81...@news.demon.co.uk>, in 
which a one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <AKHy2.1434$pE6....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
> tabm...@geoshitties.com says...
> > > > > > Yeah, in *your* reality.  The truth is, it is a mental condition.
> > > > > > It was on the American Psychiatric Association's list of
>  pathological
> > > > > > psychiatric conditions (until 1974 when it was removed for purely
> > > > > > political reasons rather than scientific ones).  There has been
> > > > > > no evidence since then to show otherwise.
> > > > > But had there been evidence to prove this ridiculous position it would
>  
> > > > > still be on the list and would still be a jailable offence. Since it
>  was 
> > > > > removed from the list some 25 years ago, this is not a valid argument
>  for 
> > > > > you to make. 
> > > > No, they removed it under pressure from homosexuals in *spite* of the
> > > > evidence.
> > > 
> > > I hardly think that to be correct.
> > 
> > Just the facts, Jack.
> 
> Same to you. BTW I'm Mark not Jack :P

LOL, that's just an expression here :)  Anyway, I have major
evidence that homosexuality is not inborn but definitely
acquired:

--
Anoymous Female (on asked about being sraight):

"I've been straight...  Not that I didn't join in and do some
stroking and touching of another woman.  Which I was surprised
that I was doing the other night."

Anonymous Male:

"Kinda happens in the moment, I guess."

Anoymous Female:

"Yeah, I didn't have any problem with her...  y'know, she
wanted to do oral sex on me.  So at one point I just hopped
right on up [and sat on her face]."
--

These two people are strangers to each other, but when
interviewed about her sexuality the female responded
that she had been straight up to that point, but then
got involved in lesbian sex later.  She was *44* years
old when this happened, plenty of time to get to know
herself, don't ya think?  Most people's lives are
pretty much defined at that point, so I think this
evidence is more than sufficient in proving that
"sexual orientation" is not an inborn trait.

True story, BTW.

> > Granted, it's unfortunate
> > that there were more than one version but I don't think it was dealt
> > with in the correct manner.
> 
> Maybe they should have had an addendum/footnotes specifying that certain 
> parts should not be taken as accurate since they were an "educated 
> guess".

Yeah, too late now though.  Although these days eeryone knows which
parts were the educated guess.

> > > Besides, not one version has yet been complete since there are terms 
> > > within the original text whose meaning is lost in history. Each 
> > > translator places his own interpretation in these places thereby lending 
> > > a specific context to the text.
> > 
> > Yes, this is unfortunate but it just has to be lived with (I doubt
> > there are any non-biased translators)
> 
> However, the bias only comes through when there are blanks to fill.

Usually, although either way it's a bias as opposed to
biased vs. unbiased.

> > > > > > Otherwise the government's being
> > > > > > worse hypocrites than the Catholic Church of the Middle Ages (you
> > > > > > should know who I'm talking about, hence your incessant references
> > > > > > to that group).
> > > > > I do not remember any incessant references to any particular group.
>  Maybe 
> > > > > you want to remind me rather than making snide comments.
> > > > You were always going on about how hypocritical they were.
> > > > Killing while preaching Jesus's word, and all that.
> > > 
> > > Oh, you mean Christians. ;)
> > 
> > Uh...  Catholics were the only Christians at that time.
> 
> In which case the terms are synonymous. So what was my "incessant" 
> reference then?

You were mentioning them quite a bit at a time...  just forget it...

> > The fact remains that a gene alone could not account for
> > homosexuality, bestiality, alcoholism, or anything else.
> 
> It can and does. 
> 
> Have you ever known a homosexual? Talked with them? 

I do personally know the "anonymous female" mentioned above,
she was not bisexual when I met her.

> > That way it might be easier for you to see why "Two people having
> > a good time" can still be a bad thing, even though they don't feel
> > like they're doing anything wrong.
> 
> But the current discussion is not about their feelings but about how they 
> are perceived by others. Two murderers might find killing people fun. 
> That does not make it acceptable.

Exactly!  I *do* look at their feelings, whether they are outweighed by
public opinion or not.

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