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Re: Happy Groundhog Day! (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

#64063
From: tabmok99.... 0MBAT
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:00
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This is in reference to <MPG.11244f866...@news.demon.co.uk>, in
which a one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <4Cqu2.2334$Po2....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
> tabmok99....@damnspaz.com says...

> > If some people say "All Jews deserve to die" than that's their opinion,
> > and they're entitled to it no matter how much I disagree with them.  If
> > they put up a list similar to the anti-abortion site, then they're just
> > stating facts.  They're is no actual threat there.  They shouldn't lose
> > a lawsuit, because they have not violated the law (they have come close
> > though).  Even if they post up their names & adresses, they haven't
> > broken the law (as long as they are in the phone books or otherwise are
> > public information).  
> > 
> > But because they lost the lawsuit, they were punished for breaking a law
> > that doesn't exist.
> 
> Don't you love the law? ;)
> 
> The law considers assault to range from the commonly accepted physical 
> abuse right down to the threat or belief of threat. 
> 
> If you suggest to someone that you will harm them and they believe your 
> comment and fear it's reality, then you are committing assault. 

You are being quite vague.  "Suggest" itself is kind of a vague word.
Why don't you elaborate a bit and then I'll show you where your
argument breaks down? ;)

> Threats are as punishable as actual deeds albeit with different levels of 
> consequence. 

facts != threats
opinions != threats
facts + opinions != threats

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From: tabmok99....@damnspaz.com (]{0MBAT)
Subject: Re: Happy Groundhog Day!  (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)
Date: 1999/02/05
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