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Re: Happy Groundhog Day! (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

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From: ma... Mark
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:00
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In article <4Cqu2.2334$Po2....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
tabmok99....@damnspaz.com says...
> This is in reference to <79d2lm$220...@news.whyweb.com>, in which a
> one dol...@dragondata.com (Jenn Dolari) wrote:
> > In article <vneu2.2069$Po2....@server1.news.adelphia.net>,
> >  tabmok99....@damnspaz.com (]{0MBAT) wrote:
> > 
> > >The law does not protect people who only *feel* threatened.  The law
> > >protects those who actually were.  
> > 
> > Have you seen the web site?  I have. If my name were on their hit list, 
> > ESPECIALLY with names of people who had died crossed out, I would most 
> > definately feel threatened, and could make a reasonable assumption that I was 
> > physically being threatened.
> > 
> > What if it was an anti-Jewish website, with names of prominent Jews, those 
> > of who had died being crossed out on it?  Same deal, different names, 
> > different attitude.
> > 
> > I stand by my opinion.
> > 
> > >Otherwise, people could make
> > >millions by feeling threadtened at anything and everything that
> > >comes their way.  That is why the law is in place.
> > 
> > People do.  And they are in the right.  If I say, even JOKINGLY, "Hey, you're 
> > gonna die by my hand!" that's a threat to your life, and punishable by law.
> > 
> > It's up to YOU to decide if it's a joke or not, and whether to act on it.  In 
> > the eyes of the law, I've broken it.  I doubt that website meant anything it 
> > said as a joke.
> 
> If some people say "All Jews deserve to die" than that's their opinion,
> and they're entitled to it no matter how much I disagree with them.  If
> they put up a list similar to the anti-abortion site, then they're just
> stating facts.  They're is no actual threat there.  They shouldn't lose
> a lawsuit, because they have not violated the law (they have come close
> though).  Even if they post up their names & adresses, they haven't
> broken the law (as long as they are in the phone books or otherwise are
> public information).  
> 
> But because they lost the lawsuit, they were punished for breaking a law
> that doesn't exist.

Don't you love the law? ;)

The law considers assault to range from the commonly accepted physical 
abuse right down to the threat or belief of threat. 

If you suggest to someone that you will harm them and they believe your 
comment and fear it's reality, then you are committing assault. 

Threats are as punishable as actual deeds albeit with different levels of 
consequence. 

The law exists, you just do not understand the full interpretation of the 
law WRT the cited crime.

-- 
Mark
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From: ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark)
Subject: Re: Happy Groundhog Day!  (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)
Date: 1999/02/05
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