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Re: Happy Thanksgiving!

#64049
From: tabmok99.... 0MBAT
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:00
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This is in reference to <MPG.10df7d506...@news.demon.co.uk>, in which a
one ma...@mhetherington.demon.co.uk (Mark) wrote:
> In article <cc%c2.2882$961....@server1.news.adelphia.net>, 
> tabmok99....@damnspaz.com says...
> > > Meant to bring it up before but how are you on Lesbians? I don't think 
> > > the bible (sexist publication that it is) even touches on the possibility 
> > > so you may not have any backup on this one. :P
> > 
> > It does.  It talks about the city of Sodom, how it was unholy, and one part 
> > specifically mentions the women having relationships with each other.
> > 
> > As for lesbians, the same way I feel about homosexuals:  I don't like it
>  that 
> > they're breaking God's Law, but it Really Pisses Me Off when they blatantly
> > flaunt it, or set up gay churches.  Some examples of being blatant about it
> > are TV shows like Ellen.  The show *only* went on because she came out of
>  the 
> > closet.  It's all about Ellen just making out with her girlfriend.  I don't 
> > mind when gay people have TV shows, or movies, or whatever, but I do mind
>  when 
> > they achieve such feats mainly by being gay.
> 
> So how do you feel about Rosanne Barr?

I never liked her show, I'm glad it was cancelled, and they had way too much 
gay stuff in it.  In our society (societies, rather) sex sells.  What sells 
a lot these days is anything to do with homosexuality (movies like "In & Out"
and "The Birdcage").  And that's a Bad Thing.

> > > > I do not see why we should make a distinction between rapists and homos
> > > > either.
> > > 
> > > Then you are as I said bigoted! Before you argue the definition is 
> > > "unreasonably prejudiced and intolerant". I think that adequately covers 
> > > your views on homosexuality. Let's see how you deal with throwing in 
> > > Lesbianism since your use of the term seems limited to merely gay males.
> > 
> > It's not unreasonable.
> 
> If not based on reason it must be unreasonable!

It is based on a reason, in fact several of which I gave you.

Besides all the mentionings of it in the Bible, it is a crime against
nature.  Why do you think two men (or two women) cannot produce a baby?

> > "Why does standing in a Church or any other establishment make it better?"
> > 
> > For the same reason winning a metal or trophy makes winning first place
> > better.  For the same reason that signing a contract makes having a job
> > as a professional basketball player better.  It's a ceremony, it's just
> 
> So you are comparing marriage to winning some competition? Why?

Because it's nice to have something to show for it, it makes it more
complete.

> > a wonderful occasion, and it's also beautiful to have something to show
> > for it (wedding rings) to remind you of your promise.
> 
> So you think people need reminding? When I commit to another person I do 
> not need some reminder of it. I consider my commitment complete without 
> needing a token to remind me of it at all times!

Good for you.  Maybe marriage isn't for everyone.  It shows that a man and a 
woman are willing to stay with each other forever, and it's a celebration of 
that promise that all your friends and family can participate in by attending.

> > > > > So is tribal cutlery. Are they inferior to us? :P
> > > > 
> > > > No, because they at least have the *potential* that animals don't have!
> > > 
> > > Based on what? 
> > 
> > We can do it, and if other humans wanted to, they could also.
> 
> I don't think they could!

And you think otters could build pipes and sinks and faucets and crap :P

> > > How do you figure that out? Using your logic a rapist is not doing 
> > > anything wrong either!
> > 
> > Yes he is.
> 
> Why? He is not being malicious. He is following his fucked up desires. As 
> would you be by killing a homosexual.

But my desires can at least be backed up.

> > I could never actually kill someone, so it wouldn't happen anyway.
> > I could see myself *charged* with murder, but that doesn't make it so.
> 
> I would consider you a murderer.

Well, you'd be wrong then.

> > As for the maliciousness, it's just like some government agents giving
> > someone the electric chair.
> 
> But are they not implemented *God's* law for people like you who do not 
> have the courage to do so? :P

It's not so much the courage, it's more squeamishness then anything.

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From: tabmok99....@damnspaz.com (]{0MBAT)
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
Date: 1998/12/14
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