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Pixel "#~ skrev:
> So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
> would I buy?
> 
> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
> series), would I use the same?
> 
> Please tell me.

I think the 360 controller is supposed to be quite good.

A day without Pixel "#~ is like a day without sunshine...

> So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
> would I buy?
> 
> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
> series), would I use the same?
> 
> Please tell me.
> 
Go into a store, and see which one brings you the most joy.

-- 
Daffy
Now it's your turn.

aglami.net? What is that?

Earlier Sean muttered:

>> So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
>> would I buy?
>> 
>> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>> series), would I use the same?
>> 
>> Please tell me.
>
>I think the 360 controller is supposed to be quite good.

The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...


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Earlier Daffy muttered:

>> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>> series), would I use the same?
>> 
>> Please tell me.
>> 
>Go into a store, and see which one brings you the most joy.

Yes, but what kind of buttons would I want. Do I want those
joystick-like-thingies, and how many? Or just some more like snes-like
controler? And that sort of stuff.


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A day without Pixel "#~ is like a day without sunshine...

>>> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>>> series), would I use the same?
>>>
>>> Please tell me.
>>>
>> Go into a store, and see which one brings you the most joy.
> 
> Yes, but what kind of buttons would I want. Do I want those
> joystick-like-thingies, and how many? Or just some more like snes-like
> controler? And that sort of stuff.
> 
> 
I seem to remember playing it on some crappy old 4-button thing I had 
lying around, and that wasn't enough for all the controls.

I still think the numpad is the best control scheme, though.

-- 
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Now it's your turn.

aglami.net? What is that?

Pixel "#~ schreef:
>>> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>>> series), would I use the same?
>>>
>>> Please tell me.
>>>
>> Go into a store, and see which one brings you the most joy.
> 
> Yes, but what kind of buttons would I want. Do I want those
> joystick-like-thingies, and how many? Or just some more like snes-like
> controler? And that sort of stuff.
> 
> 
For as far as I know, joysticks are mostly used for flight simulators 
and the likes. I've played point and click adventures with both and the 
gamepads (the snes-ish ones) are definitely better.

Probably the best are the ones that resemble playstation-controllers. 
Gamepads with all the buttons plus two analogue mini-joysticks. Then you 
can decide on a game by game basis what you like best.

Most importantly: whatever you buy, go for an USB. A new PC probably 
doesn't even have the old fashioned game port anymore.

If you'd like to go on the wild side and you have your old 
Amiga/Atari/C64 joystick you can get kits on the internet to convert 
those to USB-joysticks or get conversion cables. There probably are kits 
  for Nintendo, Sega or other controllers too.

-- 
Danny.

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:53:18 +0200, "Pixel  \"#~"
<jjwwe...@phil.uu.nl> wrote:

>>> So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
>>> would I buy?
>>> 
>>> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>>> series), would I use the same?
>>> 
>>> Please tell me.
>>
>>I think the 360 controller is supposed to be quite good.
>
>The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...

I think you can get one that works on a PC (with XP). They're pretty
nice, AFAIK. Go to a computer shop and try them out, see what the
handling is like.

-- 
Kasper

Kasper mehawa...
| >The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...
| 
| I think you can get one that works on a PC (with XP). They're pretty
| nice, AFAIK. Go to a computer shop and try them out, see what the
| handling is like.

They're also horribly expensive!!!!!1q11!!

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Pixel  "#~ mehawa...
| So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
| would I buy?
| 
| Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
| series), would I use the same?
| 
| Please tell me.

I have this gamepad:

http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=26

The only reason I bought it was to be able to Snes games on my laptop, 
and I'm happy with it. Besides that, it was also the cheapest I could 
find at Mediamarkt. It has a D-pad with eight directions, and eight 
action buttons. It's exactly enough for Super Nintendo games, but I'm 
not exactly sure how many buttons you'd need for EmI of GF.

-- 
ervaqre, your worst nightmare

DG mehawa...
| If you'd like to go on the wild side and you have your old 
| Amiga/Atari/C64 joystick you can get kits on the internet to convert 
| those to USB-joysticks or get conversion cables. There probably are kits 
|   for Nintendo, Sega or other controllers too.

I wouldn't recommend the wild side. I once bought such a converter at 
RadioShack and guess what, it didn't work at all!

-- 
ervaqre, your worst nightmare

ervaqre schreef:
> | If you'd like to go on the wild side and you have your old 
> | Amiga/Atari/C64 joystick you can get kits on the internet to convert 
> | those to USB-joysticks or get conversion cables. There probably are kits 
> |   for Nintendo, Sega or other controllers too.
> 
> I wouldn't recommend the wild side. I once bought such a converter at 
> RadioShack and guess what, it didn't work at all!
> 
I didn't call it the wild side for nothing. Some of those internet 
packages require soldering. This one doesn't: 
http://www.pixelspast.com/products/
Interesting name for a site. You might find their products on eBay aswell.

If you bought a converter at RadioShack, it probably only works with a 
Tandy TRS80. :o)

-- 
Danny.

DG schreef:
> I didn't call it the wild side for nothing. Some of those internet 
> packages require soldering. This one doesn't: 
> http://www.pixelspast.com/products/
> Interesting name for a site. You might find their products on eBay aswell.
> 
And here is a Nintendo converter, just in case:
http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=79

-- 
Danny.

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:34:51 +0200, ervaqre <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Kasper mehawa...
>| >The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...
>| 
>| I think you can get one that works on a PC (with XP). They're pretty
>| nice, AFAIK. Go to a computer shop and try them out, see what the
>| handling is like.
>
>They're also horribly expensive!!!!!1q11!!

Just get one of the knock offs from Logitech or something.

-- 
Kasper

Kasper schreef:
>> | >The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...
>> | 
>> | I think you can get one that works on a PC (with XP). They're pretty
>> | nice, AFAIK. Go to a computer shop and try them out, see what the
>> | handling is like.
>>
>> They're also horribly expensive!!!!!1q11!!
> 
> Just get one of the knock offs from Logitech or something.
> 
They're available from 10 to 15 euros at toy stores like Bart Smit and 
stores like Media Markt.

-- 
Danny.

A day without Pixel "#~ is like a day without sunshine...

> So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
> would I buy?
> 
> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
> series), would I use the same?
> 
> Please tell me.
> 

Actually, the manuals for both games have a picture of a gamepad that 
shows how many buttons you need. Why don't you just look at that?

-- 
Daffy
Now it's your turn.

aglami.net? What is that?

Earlier ervaqre muttered:

>| >The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...
>| 
>| I think you can get one that works on a PC (with XP). They're pretty
>| nice, AFAIK. Go to a computer shop and try them out, see what the
>| handling is like.
>
>They're also horribly expensive!!!!!1q11!!

Yeah, that is what I saw. A bit too expensive!


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Earlier Kasper muttered:

>>| >The 360 controller? You mean for the XBOX? But I want one for PCs...
>>| 
>>| I think you can get one that works on a PC (with XP). They're pretty
>>| nice, AFAIK. Go to a computer shop and try them out, see what the
>>| handling is like.
>>
>>They're also horribly expensive!!!!!1q11!!
>
>Just get one of the knock offs from Logitech or something.

Hmmm, Logitech shows promise.
Browses around.


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Earlier Daffy muttered:

>>> Go into a store, and see which one brings you the most joy.
>> 
>> Yes, but what kind of buttons would I want. Do I want those
>> joystick-like-thingies, and how many? Or just some more like snes-like
>> controler? And that sort of stuff.
>> 
>> 
>I seem to remember playing it on some crappy old 4-button thing I had 
>lying around, and that wasn't enough for all the controls.
>
>I still think the numpad is the best control scheme, though.

Mweh, don't have numpad on the laptop... :-/
Well, we have on the wireless keyboard, but to have that all just to
play a game... hmmm...


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Earlier DG muttered:

>> Yes, but what kind of buttons would I want. Do I want those
>> joystick-like-thingies, and how many? Or just some more like snes-like
>> controler? And that sort of stuff.
>> 
>For as far as I know, joysticks are mostly used for flight simulators 
>and the likes. I've played point and click adventures with both and the 
>gamepads (the snes-ish ones) are definitely better.
>
>Probably the best are the ones that resemble playstation-controllers. 
>Gamepads with all the buttons plus two analogue mini-joysticks. Then you 
>can decide on a game by game basis what you like best.

Hmmm, that is what I meant by joystick-like-thingies... those on the
gamepad. 
What are they useful for anyway?


>Most importantly: whatever you buy, go for an USB. A new PC probably 
>doesn't even have the old fashioned game port anymore.

Well, yes, I got that :-)
Anyway, do they even make gamepads for gameports anymore. I thought
they stopped doing that years ago?


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Earlier DG muttered:

>> I didn't call it the wild side for nothing. Some of those internet 
>> packages require soldering. This one doesn't: 
>> http://www.pixelspast.com/products/
>> Interesting name for a site. You might find their products on eBay aswell.
>> 
>And here is a Nintendo converter, just in case:
>http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=79

Hmmm, we have a real Nes, Snes and Gameboy Pocket.

Although, I like the idea of using the gamepads from the SNES and NES,
this seems a bit too expensive for me :-|


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Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> I seem to remember playing it on some crappy old 4-button thing I had 
>> lying around, and that wasn't enough for all the controls.
>>
>> I still think the numpad is the best control scheme, though.
> 
> Mweh, don't have numpad on the laptop... :-/
> Well, we have on the wireless keyboard, but to have that all just to
> play a game... hmmm...
> 
> 
Buy a USB keypad?

Like this: 
http://www.zisshop.nl/ZIS/web/webshop.exe/toonartikel?ARTIKELNUMMER=14464

-- 
Danny.

Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> For as far as I know, joysticks are mostly used for flight simulators 
>> and the likes. I've played point and click adventures with both and the 
>> gamepads (the snes-ish ones) are definitely better.
>>
>> Probably the best are the ones that resemble playstation-controllers. 
>> Gamepads with all the buttons plus two analogue mini-joysticks. Then you 
>> can decide on a game by game basis what you like best.
> 
> Hmmm, that is what I meant by joystick-like-thingies... those on the
> gamepad. 
> What are they useful for anyway?

Analogue controls, apparently. You can point more accurately with them. 
Worked great on Playstation with Gran Turismo. Might be easier 
navigating in point 'n' click adventures.

>> Most importantly: whatever you buy, go for an USB. A new PC probably 
>> doesn't even have the old fashioned game port anymore.
> 
> Well, yes, I got that :-)
> Anyway, do they even make gamepads for gameports anymore. I thought
> they stopped doing that years ago?

They are still available, but probably in the bargain bin.

-- 
Danny.

Pixel "#~ schreef:
>>> I didn't call it the wild side for nothing. Some of those internet 
>>> packages require soldering. This one doesn't: 
>>> http://www.pixelspast.com/products/
>>> Interesting name for a site. You might find their products on eBay aswell.
>>>
>> And here is a Nintendo converter, just in case:
>> http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=79
> 
> Hmmm, we have a real Nes, Snes and Gameboy Pocket.
> 
> Although, I like the idea of using the gamepads from the SNES and NES,
> this seems a bit too expensive for me :-|
> 
It was just a suggestion. There are cheaper options if you know how to 
handle a soldering iron.
Maybe someone can loan you some wooden nickels.

-- 
Danny.

Earlier ervaqre muttered:

>| Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>| series), would I use the same?
>| 
>| Please tell me.
>
>I have this gamepad:
>
>http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=26
>
>The only reason I bought it was to be able to Snes games on my laptop, 
>and I'm happy with it. Besides that, it was also the cheapest I could 
>find at Mediamarkt. It has a D-pad with eight directions, and eight 
>action buttons. It's exactly enough for Super Nintendo games, but I'm 
>not exactly sure how many buttons you'd need for EmI of GF.

What's a D-pad? Also, I thought you were the one who used gamepads for
EMI and GF? If it wasn't you, and it wasn't Daffy... then who was it??


Anyway, looking at Logitech:

this one
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/301&cl=nl,nl
or this one:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/288&cl=nl,nl

Meh.
I don't seem to need minijoysticks for EMI, but would it be wise to
get them anyway, for use with modern/future games (eg Prince of
Persia)?

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   some slight... turbulence and then explode."
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Earlier Daffy muttered:

>> So, if I would like to play like MI4 and GF with a joypad thingy, what
>> would I buy?
>> 
>> Also, if I would like to use it with like Prince of Persia (the new
>> series), would I use the same?
>> 
>> Please tell me.
>> 
>
>Actually, the manuals for both games have a picture of a gamepad that 
>shows how many buttons you need. Why don't you just look at that?

Gripe, you're right. The EMI manual suggest 10 buttons, but no
minijoystickthingies.

I don't have the GF manual at hand, it's probably on the cd somewhere.
The same goes for Prince of Persia...


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   some slight... turbulence and then explode."
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Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> I have this gamepad:
>>
>> http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=26
>>
>> The only reason I bought it was to be able to Snes games on my laptop, 
>> and I'm happy with it. Besides that, it was also the cheapest I could 
>> find at Mediamarkt. It has a D-pad with eight directions, and eight 
>> action buttons. It's exactly enough for Super Nintendo games, but I'm 
>> not exactly sure how many buttons you'd need for EmI of GF.
> 
> What's a D-pad? Also, I thought you were the one who used gamepads for
> EMI and GF? If it wasn't you, and it wasn't Daffy... then who was it??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-pad
It's the directional buttons on the left side.

> Anyway, looking at Logitech:
> 
> this one
> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/301&cl=nl,nl
> or this one:
> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/288&cl=nl,nl
> 
> Meh.
> I don't seem to need minijoysticks for EMI, but would it be wise to
> get them anyway, for use with modern/future games (eg Prince of
> Persia)?
> 
Yep. Don't you know some kid with a Playstation 2 or something? Just try 
'em out there.

Or at some game display in a toy store.

-- 
Danny.

Earlier DG muttered:

>>> I seem to remember playing it on some crappy old 4-button thing I had 
>>> lying around, and that wasn't enough for all the controls.
>>>
>>> I still think the numpad is the best control scheme, though.
>> 
>> Mweh, don't have numpad on the laptop... :-/
>> Well, we have on the wireless keyboard, but to have that all just to
>> play a game... hmmm...
>> 
>> 
>Buy a USB keypad?
>
>Like this: 
>http://www.zisshop.nl/ZIS/web/webshop.exe/toonartikel?ARTIKELNUMMER=14464

Hmmm, those things always seem a... bit silly to me...
Except when working with number of course.


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Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> Actually, the manuals for both games have a picture of a gamepad that 
>> shows how many buttons you need. Why don't you just look at that?
> 
> Gripe, you're right. The EMI manual suggest 10 buttons, but no
> minijoystickthingies.

minijoystickthingies hadn't made their way to mainstream PC use back 
then. I think.

-- 
Danny.

Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> Buy a USB keypad?
>>
>> Like this: 
>> http://www.zisshop.nl/ZIS/web/webshop.exe/toonartikel?ARTIKELNUMMER=14464
> 
> Hmmm, those things always seem a... bit silly to me...
> Except when working with number of course.
> 
> 
Here's a big me2. But I think it's the best option for laptop MI.

Most modern wide-screen laptops have the coveted numpad built in. At 
least the big ones do.

-- 
Danny.

Pixel  "#~ mehawa...
| What's a D-pad? Also, I thought you were the one who used gamepads for
| EMI and GF? If it wasn't you, and it wasn't Daffy... then who was it??

It was me. I used the MS Sidewinder gamepad, this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sidewinder_gamepad.jpg

However, since my laptop doesn't have a gameport, I decided to buy the 
one of which I gave the link. I still think the MS Sidewinder is a 
better gamepad though, but I found it a bit too expensive to buy a USB-
version as well. 

| Anyway, looking at Logitech:
| 
| this one
| http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/301&cl=nl,nl

This is basically the same as my Thrustmaster Firestorm Digital 3, but 
then better looking and more expensive (I paid only ?7). It also has two 
extra buttons. 

| or this one:
| http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/288&cl=nl,nl

I actually considered buying this one as well, but in the end I decided 
I didn't need the analogue thingies since I only play Super Nintendo 
games on my laptop. I also read quite a few negative reviews about this 
one. You're better off with the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. 
It is a bit more expensive and has vibration and all in it which you 
probably don't need, but it's way more solid than the Dual Action 
gamepad, which is said to break apart after a few months.

| Meh.
| I don't seem to need minijoysticks for EMI, but would it be wise to
| get them anyway, for use with modern/future games (eg Prince of
| Persia)?

Well, that's something for yourself to think about. Do at least go to a 
store where they sell them so that you can have it in your hands and 
decide for yourself which one feels best. At the MediaMarkt they have 
quite a lot of them. And make sure your gamepad has enough buttons. I 
know 8 buttons is exactly enough for Super Nintendo games, but of course 
other games might need more.

-- 
ervaqre, your worst nightmare

Earlier DG muttered:

>>> Like this: 
>>> http://www.zisshop.nl/ZIS/web/webshop.exe/toonartikel?ARTIKELNUMMER=14464
>> 
>> Hmmm, those things always seem a... bit silly to me...
>> Except when working with number of course.
>> 
>> 
>Here's a big me2. But I think it's the best option for laptop MI.
>
>Most modern wide-screen laptops have the coveted numpad built in. At 
>least the big ones do.

coveted?
Ours has a numpad hidden in the alfanum. But I think the previous
non-wide-screen had that too.


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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 20:11:15 +0200, ervaqre <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>| or this one:
>| http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/288&cl=nl,nl
>
>I actually considered buying this one as well, but in the end I decided 
>I didn't need the analogue thingies since I only play Super Nintendo 
>games on my laptop. I also read quite a few negative reviews about this 
>one. You're better off with the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. 
>It is a bit more expensive and has vibration and all in it which you 
>probably don't need, but it's way more solid than the Dual Action 
>gamepad, which is said to break apart after a few months.

Yeah, I just browsed some user reviews on some Danish price-index
site, and some users said it broke after a few months as well (not the
rumble one, but the one that was linked).

-- 
Kasper

Kasper mehawa...
| >I actually considered buying this one as well, but in the end I decided 
| >I didn't need the analogue thingies since I only play Super Nintendo 
| >games on my laptop. I also read quite a few negative reviews about this 
| >one. You're better off with the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. 
| >It is a bit more expensive and has vibration and all in it which you 
| >probably don't need, but it's way more solid than the Dual Action 
| >gamepad, which is said to break apart after a few months.
| 
| Yeah, I just browsed some user reviews on some Danish price-index
| site, and some users said it broke after a few months as well (not the
| rumble one, but the one that was linked).

So I think it's a fairly easy choice. If you think you need the analog 
sticks, go for the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. If you think 
you can do without them, go for the Precision Gamepad 2. Unless of 
course you find one in the stores which fits much better in your hands.

-- 
ervaqre, your worst nightmare

Earlier DG muttered:

>> Hmmm, that is what I meant by joystick-like-thingies... those on the
>> gamepad. 
>> What are they useful for anyway?
>
>Analogue controls, apparently. You can point more accurately with them. 
>Worked great on Playstation with Gran Turismo. Might be easier 
>navigating in point 'n' click adventures.

I think I'll want them then.
*makes up his mind*

>> Well, yes, I got that :-)
>> Anyway, do they even make gamepads for gameports anymore. I thought
>> they stopped doing that years ago?
>
>They are still available, but probably in the bargain bin.

And second hand stores, yes.


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Earlier DG muttered:

>> What's a D-pad? Also, I thought you were the one who used gamepads for
>> EMI and GF? If it wasn't you, and it wasn't Daffy... then who was it??
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-pad
>It's the directional buttons on the left side.

Wow, those things have an actual name??

>> Meh.
>> I don't seem to need minijoysticks for EMI, but would it be wise to
>> get them anyway, for use with modern/future games (eg Prince of
>> Persia)?
>> 
>Yep. Don't you know some kid with a Playstation 2 or something? Just try 
>'em out there.
>
>Or at some game display in a toy store.

All the stores I've tried only have broken DSs. 
I need to visit the Mediamarkt, really.
But time! No time!


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Earlier ervaqre muttered:

>| >I actually considered buying this one as well, but in the end I decided 
>| >I didn't need the analogue thingies since I only play Super Nintendo 
>| >games on my laptop. I also read quite a few negative reviews about this 
>| >one. You're better off with the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. 
>| >It is a bit more expensive and has vibration and all in it which you 
>| >probably don't need, but it's way more solid than the Dual Action 
>| >gamepad, which is said to break apart after a few months.
>| 
>| Yeah, I just browsed some user reviews on some Danish price-index
>| site, and some users said it broke after a few months as well (not the
>| rumble one, but the one that was linked).
>
>So I think it's a fairly easy choice. If you think you need the analog 
>sticks, go for the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. If you think 
>you can do without them, go for the Precision Gamepad 2. Unless of 
>course you find one in the stores which fits much better in your hands.

Why would the non-rumble version break easier than the rumbler
version? That makes no sense. Then I'd better by the brand Reinder
posted earlier?

Also, what really is the point in the thing vibrating? I am not a girl
or anything.


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Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> Analogue controls, apparently. You can point more accurately with them. 
>> Worked great on Playstation with Gran Turismo. Might be easier 
>> navigating in point 'n' click adventures.
> 
> I think I'll want them then.
> *makes up his mind*

That *is* worth an usenet post. :o)

Now what about these fine leather jackets?

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Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-pad
>> It's the directional buttons on the left side.
> 
> Wow, those things have an actual name??

Hey, if they can give a name to the Palatine uvula, then why not a D-pad?

>> Yep. Don't you know some kid with a Playstation 2 or something? Just try 
>> 'em out there.
>>
>> Or at some game display in a toy store.
> 
> All the stores I've tried only have broken DSs. 

I blame the children. They should be banned from toy stores. They 
threaten the fabric of our society by disrupting daily operations in 
these cornerstones of our fair country.

> I need to visit the Mediamarkt, really.
> But time! No time!
> 
Maybe a Vroom & Dreesmann, ElectriCity or Dixons may be closer?

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Pixel "#~ schreef:
>> | Yeah, I just browsed some user reviews on some Danish price-index
>> | site, and some users said it broke after a few months as well (not the
>> | rumble one, but the one that was linked).
>>
>> So I think it's a fairly easy choice. If you think you need the analog 
>> sticks, go for the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. If you think 
>> you can do without them, go for the Precision Gamepad 2. Unless of 
>> course you find one in the stores which fits much better in your hands.
> 
> Why would the non-rumble version break easier than the rumbler
> version? That makes no sense. Then I'd better by the brand Reinder
> posted earlier?

I don't think the rumble version is just the non-rumble with extra 
gadget in it. It may actually be that the non-rumble is actually from 
some other make, just re-branded to fill out the product line with a 
budget option. Even if they look much the same, they may still come from 
different firms and factories.

> Also, what really is the point in the thing vibrating? I am not a girl
> or anything.

The force rumblepack is handy in some games. Say you get hit from behind 
in a fighting game, it may be easier to feel than to see this attack. It 
also makes games a bit more immersive. It's worth a premium of, say, 5 
euros.

So I'd say: let's get ready to rumble.

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:50:47 +0200, "Pixel  \"#~"
<jjwweerrff@phil.uu.nl> wrote:

>>So I think it's a fairly easy choice. If you think you need the analog 
>>sticks, go for the Rumblepad 2 Vibration Feedback Gamepad. If you think 
>>you can do without them, go for the Precision Gamepad 2. Unless of 
>>course you find one in the stores which fits much better in your hands.
>
>Why would the non-rumble version break easier than the rumbler
>version? That makes no sense. Then I'd better by the brand Reinder
>posted earlier?

Better quality, probably.

>Also, what really is the point in the thing vibrating? I am not a girl
>or anything.

Immersion. Just turn the rumble off.

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Pixel  "#~ is a real pirate:
| Why would the non-rumble version break easier than the rumbler
| version? That makes no sense. 

What DG and Kasper said. If you take a close look at the photos you'll 
see that the rumble version isn't just the non-rumble version with a 
vibrator inside, but made from entirely different material.

| Then I'd better by the brand Reinder
| posted earlier?

I'd still go for the Logitech Precision Gamepad in that case, since it 
has two extra buttons. 

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ervaqre schreef:
> | Then I'd better by the brand Reinder
> | posted earlier?
> 
> I'd still go for the Logitech Precision Gamepad in that case, since it 
> has two extra buttons. 
> 
You can never have enough buttons, no matter what Steve Jobs says.

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:46:21 +0200, ervaqre <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>| Then I'd better by the brand Reinder
>| posted earlier?
>
>I'd still go for the Logitech Precision Gamepad in that case, since it 
>has two extra buttons. 

Meant the brand you had, only with mini-joysticks...

Pixel  "#~ is a real pirate:
| >I'd still go for the Logitech Precision Gamepad in that case, since it 
| >has two extra buttons. 
| 
| Meant the brand you had, only with mini-joysticks...

Oh well, Thrustmaster also is a very good brand if you ask me. Their 
gamepads look a bit weird though, but just try them out. 

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