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8 total messages Started by Dave Rudolf Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:03
Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94270
Author: Dave Rudolf
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:03
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Hey all,

I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a Windows 
XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I use the 
setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster". WHen I play 
the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes extremely slow. 
   The midi music seems to work fine (although it slows down with the rest of 
the game when a sound is played). The smae thing happens with my old copy of 
Heretic.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks,

Dave
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94272
Author: pop
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:31
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the original doom.exe will not work with sound with latest version of 
windows; you need to get one of the doom drivers ported to windows such as 
jdoom, gldoom, zdoom, etc - I use jdoom which has the best graphics and 
added model features...

-- 
pop is Mark
Doing nothing makes me tired 'cause I can't take a break.
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"Dave Rudolf" <dave.rudolf@usask.ca> wrote in message 
news:11t9vi2pa3bdv14@corp.supernews.com...
> Hey all,
>
> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a 
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I 
> use the setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster". 
> WHen I play the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes 
> extremely slow. The midi music seems to work fine (although it slows down 
> with the rest of the game when a sound is played). The smae thing happens 
> with my old copy of Heretic.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave 
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94271
Author: Chris Odorjan
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:27
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On 01/23/06 11:03 AM, Dave Rudolf wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card.
> 
> Does anyone know how to fix this?

doom2.exe is trying to access your Sound Blaster card's hardware
directly, and XP doesn't like that (neither will 2000 or NT); that's why
there's a pause every time it tries to play a sound.

Since you also have the same problem with Heretic, I'd recommend you try
either ZDoom (http://www.zdoom.org/) or Doomsday
(http://www.doomsdayhq.com/), both of which will play Heretic along with
Doom (not to mention Hexen) on Windows XP.

-- 
Chris Odorjan - codorjan@gmail.com - http://www.execulink.com/~bobnet/
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94273
Author: Stephen Howe
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:39
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> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a 
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I 
> use the setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster". 
> WHen I play the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes 
> extremely slow. The midi music seems to work fine (although it slows down 
> with the rest of the game when a sound is played). The smae thing happens 
> with my old copy of Heretic.

Can't be done with XP. You are quite lucky that hear anything at all.
It must be that the IRQ chosen for sound by PNP matches the Doom2/Heretic 
default.

Stephen Howe 
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94274
Author: Ron Gibson
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:01
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:03:27 -0600, Dave Rudolf wrote:
 
> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I
> use the setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster".
> WHen I play the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes
> extremely slow.

I have some problems running those too with 98SE and a SBlive. I don't
know what happened but they used to work perfectly in the past. I think
it's because of the DirectX updates applied over time. That's my WAG.

But I really haven't spent a lot of time trying to remedy the problem
lately. Seems like last time I twiddled with some settings and got it to
go after a while.
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94275
Author: Dan Morris
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:13
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I just solved this same problem.
Rather than trying to fix your computer to use the old EXE, you can just 
download an updated, open-source engine for DOOM, as long as you have the 
wads.

http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/ports/index.php?platform=2

I picked up Doomsday from here.  Prepare to be amazed at the image and sound 
quality, at the new things you can do, and to get hooked all over again!  I 
am!

Dan

"Ron Gibson" <rsgibson@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:pan.2006.02.13.22.09.23.301269@verizon.net...
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:03:27 -0600, Dave Rudolf wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
>> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I
>> use the setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster".
>> WHen I play the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes
>> extremely slow.
>
> I have some problems running those too with 98SE and a SBlive. I don't
> know what happened but they used to work perfectly in the past. I think
> it's because of the DirectX updates applied over time. That's my WAG.
>
> But I really haven't spent a lot of time trying to remedy the problem
> lately. Seems like last time I twiddled with some settings and got it to
> go after a while. 
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94276
Author: myk
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:41
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In the past you also used SB Live, or another older SB? For the DOS
Doom engines in particular the best SBs are the older ISA cards; PCI
SBs tend to have issues or imperfections.
Re: Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom
#94277
Author: Ron Gibson
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:38
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 03:41:17 -0800, myk wrote:

> In the past you also used SB Live, or another older SB? For the DOS Doom
> engines in particular the best SBs are the older ISA cards; PCI SBs tend
> to have issues or imperfections.

Kinda late here as I've been on vacation.

Yep, it's one of the early SBLive PCI (5.1) card.

Early on I just ran it in a full screen DOS session. Then one day I
tried to run it and all was well and then it took a dump. 

IIRC, there was a awful noise from the card.

I do have a spare Crystal 4614 PCI sound card I've used in the past that
emulates the classic ISA Sound Blaster. Again IIRC, it worked great.

I actually never used a ISA SB - I used a ISA PAS16 that emulated the SB.
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