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"Stephen Howe" <sjhoweATdialDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in message
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>> We were speaking to the thrill of some of the original Quake, also
>> called QuakeC or Quake Classic.
>
> Good game. Played it on "Nightmare mode" (unlike Doom, Nightmare is
> playable - the Shamblers go absolutely crazy and Grunts & Enforcers
> fire 3 times a second. But they stay dead) a few times. Also played
> Scourge of Armagon and Dissolution of Eternity on Nightmare mode.
> Both boss monsters are easy to beat if you resort to sniper tactics
> and skulking, otherwise they are absolute murder.
>
> I still have questions on this game - like what causes the 4 scrags
> (wizards) on E2M5 near the Quad Damage in the acid to activate? And
> the ogre near the silver key door on E1M3 - never activates? And a
> spore on E4M5 - never activates?
> And a hidden lift on E2M3 near the start - can you enter it? I
> recently worked out how to legimately score the 4th secret on E4M5.
> It is shame that the RotFish counting bug is still present and other
> minor level flaws.

I'll have to get it running again and play those levels and tell ya 
whats up with em.  I recall that if you DO it right, you can get the 
rotfish count right.  In Elder Gods Shrine you can get too many Fiends 
right at the beginning :)  I think it ends up ALL the fiend count from 
the level will drop for you there, yet also respawn in their norm 
triggers.

>
> Architectually levels like Tim Willits E3M5 - Wind Tunnels are
> stunning. Romero's E2M4 ("Ebon Fortress"), E2M5 ("Wizards Manse") and
> E2M6 ("Dismal Ouiblette") are architectually good as well.
> Imaginative use of 3D.

Palace of Hate :)

There are some outstanding maps in Quake.  Dismal Obliette was an 
outstanding multiplayer map too :)  Grisly Grotto.  Gee, how many times 
have I played THAT map?  I've forgotten the names of so many of them I 
loved playing.  One CTF map that was just a blast with a good crowd: 
Dysphoria.  That one and McKinley Base are two I remember having so much 
fun with....I'd realize it's daylight and I was late for work a couple 
times :)

>
> And Rogue's levels are in a class of their own. I was awed by the
> boats on R1M1.
> "Curse of Osiris", R2M4 was a incredible level, absolutely huge -
> detail like the boat was amazing.
>
> Yup - fond memories of Quake.
>
> SH

Dammit.  Now I'm gonna have to dig out my old CD's and also get this 
thing to work with my current rig.  SO FAR, I haven't liked any of the 
"things" like FuhQuake.  they changed playability completely.  It RUNS, 
but they modded it so that none of the old console commands work.  There 
is not enough documentation to show me how to replace any of that. 
Also, No hook.  Fooey.  I do Quake with hook and that's final :)
I don't care if I gotta build an older box to play it on.  But I'd 
rather have it working right on THIS rig.
McG.